viper791xv problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=59554
Printed Date: May 27, 2024 at 11:53 AM
Topic: viper791xv problem
Posted By: Integrity
Subject: viper791xv problem
Date Posted: July 16, 2005 at 4:39 PM
Just when i thought my alarm problem was fixed it came back like a bad rash. I have a viper 791xv that was just reinstalled and the tech mentioned that the former installer who got fired forgot to install some wiring needed for my alarm.
with that in mind this guy appeared to seem what he was doing so my alarm was reinstalled it worked fine for 3days and now its doing its thing again. when i go to remote start the car nothing happens the gages turn like its trying to crank the car but nothing happens. and now sometimes my parking brake lights remain on so if i unplug the alarm the lights go off. Dei has replaced this alarm but yet i am still facing this problem I even got pulled over because the alarm seemed to cause the parking brake lights to come on and off on there own while driving. before the install i had the same problem and i would wiggle the stinger shock sensor and the car would start i tried that this time and nothing any ideas before i rip this piece of shhh alarm out? never had so many problems with such a device thats supposed to be top quality.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 16, 2005 at 5:48 PM
Don't go blaming the alarm just yet. What kind of car do you have? Auto or manual? The brake light is almost undoubtedly install related and the no crank is more then likely something wrong with the immobilizer defeat or faulty installation.
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Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 16, 2005 at 9:19 PM
I have a 2004 ford explorer but the thing is now been installed twice and same shhh happens i get no where with callind dei cause they just want to pocket money and provide no support they tell me to go see the dealer or pay another dealer to install it how much money do i have to shell out before this gets fixed
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 16, 2005 at 9:35 PM
oh yeah its automatic i was not aware of a ford explorer being manual if there is such a thing
Posted By: neilfrombestbuy
Date Posted: July 17, 2005 at 2:00 PM
yep, your remote start problem does sound like a problem with the immbolizer problem. have the place that installed it check to make sure the immbolizer around your key ring is secure and working. as for your parking brake lights, is it your parking lights that are on or is it your brake lights, if it is your parking lights that are on after you try to remote start it, sounds like the installer tried to use what they called a timed output to remote start your car instead of using a tach signal. either way is fine, just that if they used tach, the alarm would reconize your car not starting and would shut off (including your lights). most likely installer error than product, dei makes great alarms
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 17, 2005 at 2:39 PM
ok is this imobilizer the 555u unit that the key is placed inside you know the little black box because other then that i do not recall them using a wire that loops around the ignition key entry. and i made a mistake is not the parking brake is the actual brake lights that remain on as i am driving thats how i got pulled over and even after i shut off the car they remain on at times and when i disconnect the alarm the go off.... i am pissed that i been dealing with this problem for so long if there is anyone that can correct this problem in the central jersey area let me know i will pay you. but not the prices the other dealers been asking me for 250 dollars to reinstall the alarm the hell with them i rather ebay it.. guys let me know how can i correct this problem and my other post was how can i program the spare remote from the older viper 690xv or whatever it was is the white remote. look for my other post and you will see the picture of the remote https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=59153&KW=791xv
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 18, 2005 at 3:36 PM
any help would be appreciated i am not sure what do you mean on the immobilizer i have a box that an extra key goes in thats labeled 555u is this the imobolizer you are referring to? or are we talking about something else
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 19, 2005 at 9:33 PM
over 130 people have read this request for help but only two people have helped please if anyone can help me out it will be appreciated the dam lights did it again this evening its making me crazy
Posted By: diabloscope
Date Posted: July 20, 2005 at 3:00 AM
Take it back ! ! get a refund , they sound like a bunch of d.m.f 's then take you car and you money somplace else , they have been helping you and told you what sounds like it could be the problem , if you dont know how to install or knowledge about them dont try to fix yourself you could be in for some more problems in the longrun , Just My Opinion ! ! ! Good Luck ! !
Posted By: wiretapper
Date Posted: July 22, 2005 at 1:44 AM
Integrity wrote:
over 130 people have read this request for help but only two people have helped please if anyone can help me out it will be appreciated the dam lights did it again this evening its making me crazy
That's because most of this thread consists of babble and complaining instead of giving detailed info in order to diagnose the problem correctly.
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 9:41 PM
Ok how much more detailed do you want this post to be considering that if it was a more technical post I dont think it would make much sense for myself to even post asking for assitance. because the technicality skills would be there enough for me to comprehend how to install and troubleshoot this problem.
as of a current status when i press the remote start * button the vehicle does not start instead the gauges move as if it's trying to crank but no results. in the past if i wiggled around the cables particually the stinger shock sensor it would start the car. i was told that the previous installer did not know what he was doing and that the reason i had to wiggle it and the brake lights would come on steady at times was because the system needs to send 2 ground taps. well as the system was reinstalled from scratch it worked for 5 days withought a problem then now it does not start up the car even when wiggling the cable. however the alarm works with no problems and the parking brake issue has been eliminated.
i think that describe it best now perhaps i can get a detailed answer from someone. other then the smart @$$ genious here.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 10:00 PM
If you have to wiggle wires around to make the starter work , then it would make me think that the connection to the starter wire or the relay is not 100 % secure. Check to see that the installation of the wires were soldered and not just taped up or a T-Tap was used. As far as the 555U, this is a key required bypass module that uses a thin gauge wire wrapped around the ignition key tumbler to induce the signal from the key in the module. The key needs to be in the sweet spot on the module to properly send the signal, so what you can do is open the module and move the key around until you get the vehicle to start and when you get this spot, use a dab of hot glue to secure the key in the spot.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: July 24, 2005 at 10:03 PM
Your run-on sentences make my head hurt...but I'll try to help.
On the tap of the dash there is a red light. When you start the car, the light should turn on solid for about 4-5 seconds and then go off. If the light flashes rapidly, the truck is not seeing the immobilzer key properly. It may also be seeing multiple keys at the same time, which can also cause a problem. The part that reads the key may also be damaged, or out of place causing a problemn. Next time you try to start the key, pay attention to the red light and let us know what it is doing.
I can't imagine one reason why shaking the shock sensor would help with starting the vehicle.
The brake switch was probably out of position which caused your brake lights to go on.
It sounds like nobody at that shop knows what they are doing. There are probably multiple things wrong with the install. You would probably be better off having another shop remove it and re-install it.
Posted By: jediraverz
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 1:08 AM
you could also unplug the imobilizer place your good Key in the key hole then try to remote start the vehicle from the remote. If it works then find someone that knows how to install the imobilizer , or get a different type of imobilizer, because thats the problem . If it doesnt work then you have some other bad wiring most likely the installer used T-taps or some other crap like that. good luck
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 6:40 PM
ok had a look at the led and when trying to remote start the led does not flash
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 8:07 PM
JWORm----- THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU>>>>>>>>
I FOLLOWED YOUR STEPS AND GLUED THE KEY TURNED OUT TO BE THAT WAS LOOSE AND ALSO I HJAD TO SOLDER ONE OF THE LOOSE PINS TESTED THE ALARM WORKS WITHOUGHT A HITCH....
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME AND FOR HELPING ME
NOW I WILL ASK A MINOR REQUEST CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW CAN I GET MY OLD VIPER690XV TWO REMOTE TO WORK WITH THIS ALARM IT USED TO WORK IN THE PASS BUT SINCE EVERYTHING WAS DISCONNECTED AND REINSTALLED THE IDIOTS DID NOT PROGRAM IT.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 8:58 PM
Thank you JWorm ???? Guess I didn't help anything here  ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Integrity
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 9:02 PM
Sorry and Thanks VElocity actually it was your idea with the glue part. so if anything you both helped out
sorry.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: July 25, 2005 at 9:03 PM
I was just kidding, glad we could all be of help to you.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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