99 VW Beetle security install

I was installing a remote start, alarm, keyless entryon my 99 Beetle. Will I be able to integrate with myfactory keyless entry and trunk pop, so I can just usethe security system remotes?
Thank You

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mrsparky637

mrsparky637 wrote:

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I was installing a remote start, alarm, keyless entryon my 99 Beetle. Will I be able to integrate with myfactory keyless entry and trunk pop, so I can just usethe security system remotes?
Thank You

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Will I need any additional equipment(relays,etc.) or should I be able to just hook into factory wiring?
Thanks Again

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mrsparky637

Dunno..... what kind of system are you putting into the car? You won't need any relays if you're using a DEI product. You will need a couple 6A diodes to isolate the parking lights. You will also need a few 1A diodes to isolate the doorpins from each other, possibly your re lock after crank, maybe your disarm and arm from the lock and unlock. Hard to say. Whatever you do..... don't be playing around looking for stuff at the instrument cluster. Nothing you need is found there. Turning the key on with one of the connectors unplugged, or even not using a decent meter may cause issues on the instrument cluster (I haven't done it personally..... do know a few techs that have).

Doorpins are independent, and are located in each door. You can't get a decent door trigger at the CCM. There is only one ignition, and one accessory.

Not the easiest car to do, but not that bad. We do a lot of VW's here, and my last 3 cars have been VW, so I have a pretty good understanding of how these cars work. (over thought at the time of design, not too bad to work on, once you take half of the car apart to get at anything)

Gus



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The only thing about using the dome light output of the CCM (Comfort convenience module) is that it will probably set the aftermarket alarm off when you remote start it....

Most remote starts out there don't shut off the instant zones when remote start is active, they just ignore the shock and ignition. To disarm the factory security you need to pulse the unlock wire, which also pops the dome light on. Of course, the factory security also arms when the door is locked. Pulling into each door and grabbing the BROWN / white at either the light at the back of the door panel or in the harness that comes from the latch assembly (smae harness you are getting the dorr lock wires in). You're already going in there for locks, you may as well pull in one more wire for the door trigger.

Gus


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Thanks to everyone who answered my post. The system I was going to install was a galaxy 5000-rs-2w-m.
Will I be able to get to the ECM and CCM to use them for some of my connections or where should I access them? One more thing, when I hook into the
hand brake do I hook into the brn / YELLOW feeding the parking brake? I appreciate your help. I just want to
know any problems before I get started.
Thanks again


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mrsparky637

I am going to install this system on my beetle. Will it
work ok or are there things I need to know or have before I begin installation?
Thanks

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mrsparky637

Your going to need a transponder bypass. https://directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/directed_techtips/1056.pdf

Here is the wiring info if you need it.
https://directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=2828&product=Remote%20Start

Does your beetle have a manual transmission?

You can grab your door pins, hood pin and trunk pin at the theft module to the left of the steering column.

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Steve G

99 Beetle shouldn't have an RFID key. Is it a switchblade style key with built in remote or is it a non switchblade key with a key shaped remote for the doorlocks?

Still more reliable to go to each door for doorpins..... you're going in there for doorlocks/disarm/rearm anyways.

Gus


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No, it doesnt have a transponder for an immobilizer. I had a plain old key cut and it works everything just
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mrsparky637

I need to find the tach wire for remote start install.It doen't seem to be the wire they said in the blue plugin the alarm module (BROWN / green). I was thinking ofdrilling a hole above the throttle cable to access theengine compartment. Would this be ok? Do you know of abetter way to access engine compartment? Which wire should I hook to on the fuel injector? Where should I hook my auxiliary 1 and trunk pop wires coming from my unit to on the car? There was no relay listed for themin wiring diagrams of my car's wire colors.
Thank You
This is on a 1999 VW Beetle, 2.0, manual trans

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mrsparky637

 

Tach Signal

GRN/ORG OR GRN/YEL

AT IGNITION COIL *

* Alternate Tach Signal- WHITE Or BLUE Or GRAY At Engine Speed Sensor left Rear Of Engine Compartment.

Trunk Release

BROWN / VIOLET (+)

AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Sounds good to me! Thanks for the info.

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mrsparky637

mrsparky637 wrote:

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I was thinking of drilling a hole above the throttle cable to access the engine compartment. Would this be ok? Do you know of a better way to access engine compartment?

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If you can find a bundle of wires or a cable running through the firewall that has a rubber surround, you can punch through that with a screwdriver. Then you will already have rubber surrounding your wire. If you drill a new hole, make sure you put a rubber grommet through the hole so your wire doesn't wear against the metal and then touch the body. That will prevent problems down the road.

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Steve G

Thanks for the info on the 99 Beetle. That tach wireworked great. I have two more questions and I will letyou go. I have a wire that is feeding the trunk pop. I bought a relay to wire it in. I couldn't find the BROWN / purple wire for trunk pop. I do I need to hook upmy (-)negative alarm output to relay to make the trunk work? I need the door pin colors. I found the one BROWN / yellow for the negative side, but I need the wirefor positve side. Can you help me please?
Thanks for your help

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mrsparky637

Yes...hook up the Trunk ( - ) Output from alarm to Relay
also:

BROWN / YELLOW Wire Turns On Domelight After Ignition Is Turned Off. Alternate Door Trigger:
TAN/WHITE (-) In Each Door Operates Door Lights Only And Must Be Diode Isolated.

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Thanks for the help, but I still have a problem. I got the trunk pop working just fine. The door locks were working fine, but now they dont want to work all the time. My system (Galaxy 5000RS-2W-M)has you to put car in neutral, set park brake,and then push remote start
button to set up for remote start. It will then flash lights twice to indicate that it is ready. I did all of that and the lights flashed. I opened the door and the motor cut off like its supposed to. I waited a little while and hit the start button. The dash lights came on but the starter never engaged. It cut off and then they
came on two more times, but it didnt try to start each time. I believe I am gettin close. Does anybody have any ideas what it going on?
Thanks for your help!!

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mrsparky637

I have everything working on my remote start, except getting by the clutch. If I set up for remote start and
stay in the car and hold the clutch in the car will start just fine. How do I get past the clutch switch, so
car will remote start?
Thanks

99 VW Beetle, 2.0, 5-speed, Manual transmission

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