Immobilizer challenge, all welcome
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Printed Date: May 13, 2025 at 5:48 AM
Topic: Immobilizer challenge, all welcome
Posted By: profuse007
Subject: Immobilizer challenge, all welcome
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 11:46 AM
Immobilizer challenge... all welcome!!!
Intention: Acura RSX engine swap into a non-immobilizer car, utilize OEM ECU.
Objective: use a programmed 555I to use as a transponder unit-receiver to activate the signal when Ignition.
solution: using hte 555I as a unit-receiver, will it work? youll notice, the ecu, theres another wire, brwn/yllw, on pin E3 that goes from receiver to ECU. do i need that? or will it work w/ just thw two wires, ign fee d and data?
(the next post will include two diagrams of the units, 555I and ECU.)
any question or comment, plz ask. need any expertise from yall if i can.
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 11:47 AM
  ------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 5:35 PM
Go to an experienced tuner and have them remove the immobilizer from the ecu? I haven't heard much about the k20 ecus. This could or could not help.
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 6:49 PM
if youre talkin about hondata, which they specialize in, they charges like 500 for a reflash. also, i dont want to go w/ a k-pro or stand-alone management system, no money.
for right now, i am itching to try it on my sis 02 civic, but too scare if it messes up.
ivent heard too many tuner that actually know what the hell is goin on w/ electronics parts.
ill take a shot at those two links.
auex] wrote:
Go to an experienced tuner and have them remove the immobilizer from the ecu? I haven't heard much about the k20 ecus. This could or could not help.
These people have a good rep in AZ.
------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 6:52 PM
profuse007 wrote:
Intention: Acura RSX engine swap into a non-immobilizer car, utilize OEM ECU.
bobk] wrote:
I have a question that I may already know the answer to but here goes, if the car that you are putting the engine into is fi then why are you changing the ecu?
------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 6:57 PM
I found your posts at k20a.org as well. Also I see 2 downfalls, first you need an rsx to code the bypass. Second after you program it you need to trasnfer it to the vehicle it will go into ie erasing the code. I'll think about something.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:01 PM
He is putting an ecu from an immobilizer equipped car into a car that isn't wired for an immobilizer at all.
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:02 PM
LOL, yes sir.
auex] wrote:
Also I found your posts at k20a.org as well.
if youre to search a bit more about K-series that ppl use to swap into a non-immobilizer car, theyll go w/ kpro, but K-pro ecu is like 1grand for it.
any ECU expert out there or know any site, LMK. if this method works, itll be nice to save some big bucks. ------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:02 PM
LOL, yes sir.
auex] wrote:
Also I found your posts at k20a.org as well.
if youre to search a bit more about K-series that ppl use to swap into a non-immobilizer car, theyll go w/ kpro, but K-pro ecu is like 1grand for it.
any ECU expert out there or know any site, LMK. if this method works, itll be nice to save some big bucks. ------------- Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:03 PM
Forgot to ask, do you have a key programmed to the ecu?
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:07 PM
For the engine to run correctly you have should the appropriate ecu. The k's ecu's are competely different then the p2p ecu from a ek civic.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:20 PM
It sounds like he is taking the motor from a rsx or civic si and putting it into civic that is older and completely different. It is a different engine, different sensors, different vtec system, completely different engine. Supposedly the only ecus that don't have immobilizers built in are available in the japanese version of the ecu.
I don't know how much you know about hondas so I don't know what needs to be explained but the k series engines can't use older ecus for d series or b series engines.
auex] wrote:
Also I see 2 downfalls, first you need an rsx to code the bypass. Second after you program it you need to trasnfer it to the vehicle it will go into ie erasing the code. I'll think about something.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 7:45 PM
Cool, you know your stuff then. You can shut me up if you need to.
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: August 09, 2005 at 10:13 PM
why would you use a v6? isnt it as much work and money as a k20, but no potential?
bobk] wrote:
No shut up from me. They say that you don't know every thing until after you die ( maybe ). I will learn something from this myself and am planning a similer swap in about 6 weeks ( v6 into a Civic ).
anyways... i got some ideas from Auex. thanks Tim. ------------- Houston,TX
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: August 10, 2005 at 4:12 PM
Ok, that is insane. Are you putting it under the hood or going to convert to rear engine rear wheel drive? I can say I haven't really heard much if anything on this swap.
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