remote start in 5 speed

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Topic: remote start in 5 speed

Posted By: godshandkiller
Subject: remote start in 5 speed
Date Posted: August 10, 2005 at 11:04 PM

i have a 2000 mustang gt 5 speed with a python 881 xp that i installed.how can i make theremote start not work until the emergency brake is on for safety.

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 11, 2005 at 12:09 AM

DEI Electronics wrote:

IMPORTANT! This product is designed for fuel-injected, automatic transmission vehicles only.
Installing it in a standard transmission vehicle is dangerous and is contrary to its intended use.

Doesn't matter if the park brake is engaged, the car will still lurch forward. Just go and buy a system designed for a manual transmission vehicle

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: adambeazley
Date Posted: August 11, 2005 at 12:41 AM

Well this is basically what I did to make a neutral safety switch. Check out the picture

As you can see in the picture I have placed two springs on either side of the stick shift. Then I wrapped the actual stick with electrical tape and then wrapped a aluminum reflective tape around the electrical tape to isolate it from the metal stick. Now what happens is when the stick is in gear 1, 3 or 5 the back spring doesnt touch the reflecting tape and therefore the ground connection is broken and the car wont start. Now when the stick is in 2nd, 4th or reverse the ground is again broken and the car cant start. You just connect the neutral/parking safety wire from your alarm head unit to one spring and then ground the other spring. As far as materials go I just used some tiny 1/4" brass wood screws to screw into the plastic. Well let me know what you think or if you have any questions.
peace
Adam

Posted By: xtreme069
Date Posted: August 12, 2005 at 11:43 PM

directed actually have a neutral saftey switch which is called a rope switch it basically ataches to the shifter and detects movement forward and back when we order them the part no. is a GSRW good luck

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 13, 2005 at 3:01 AM

Oh GOD.........here we go again...................

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Posted By: xtreme069
Date Posted: August 13, 2005 at 5:26 AM

what's the problem? Kartuneman

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 13, 2005 at 4:07 PM

Thank you bobk!

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Posted By: shesaidshewas18
Date Posted: August 14, 2005 at 6:46 AM

I think kartuneman is never gonna see the end of these types of posts. Rather than whining, he should just make a post about it, put a link to his thread in his sig, and then everytime he see's a thread with this kind of topic he could just say "ChEcK My SiG yO"

Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 14, 2005 at 1:49 PM

HERE IT IS.....If it ain't for a manual trans......DON'T ATTEMT TO PUT IT IN. And dont ask US how to jerry rig it posted_image

I don't "whine" I just wish that stupidity and ignorance were painful.............

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Posted By: xtreme069
Date Posted: August 15, 2005 at 7:20 AM

Kartuneman, you must be one of those old guys who thinks he knows all there is to know, all godshandkiller wanted to know was how to make his remote start system safe, he already has the alarm so changing it is out of the question and no matter what you say he's probably going to fit it anyway so instead of telling him he's an idiot maybe give him a safe way of doing it by either telling him to find the neutral safety switch wire on the computer or as i guided him towards the rope switch sure put across your point of view but don't belittle people the forum is for help not hinderence get off your hi horse!!!!!!

Also why would directed sell the rope switch if it wasn't reliable???

As for godshandkiller good luck with your project just remember your starting your car at your own risk and maybe others around you so starting it in a crowded area is probably not a good idea again good luck

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 15, 2005 at 8:50 AM

xtreme069 wrote:

As for godshandkiller good luck with your project just remember your starting your car at your own risk and maybe others around you so starting it in a crowded area is probably not a good idea again good luck

Basically that is all everyone on this forum is saying to other member's about putting a auto system into a manual vehicle, just not in the same words that you did. In the end, I would not want to be the one responsible for telling someone how to bypass an automatic remote start to be used in a manual transmission vehicle for fear of someone getting hurt. Property damage can be fixed but someone's life is not.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: stang351w
Date Posted: August 15, 2005 at 9:18 AM

i agree, putting a auto car starter in a manual car isn't the safest thing to do...a friend of mine bought a 5 spd car that someone installed an auto car starter for an automatic and one day he left it in gear and forgot, then in the morn he started his car and it ran into his barn...$600 in damage to the front of his car. all the car starters i've installed (autostart) need to have different inputs for each (automatic or manual) the ones for manuals need to be tied into the door pins and parking brake, not to mention the clutch bypass. it is possible to jerry rig it but i'd hate to be him if he ever forgot it in gear and trie dto start it and he hit someone. his best bet (for safty ) is to go buy one meant for a manual, and take out the old one, put it on ebay and sell it to get his part of his money back..spending an extra $50 for a new one sounds better then being sued for killing or injuring someone

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 15, 2005 at 11:12 PM

Amen boys..............

extreme069....what I do know, is the diff. between right and wrong. AND YES....Im old, 42 to be exact.....I been at this a while and have seen it ALL....dogs, kids, and garage doors....destroyed by a FOOL and his remote start. I dont want to help anyone do that!

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Posted By: xtreme069
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 8:22 AM

kartuneman sorry for being so abrupt, i respect what you are saying but i think the way you get it across is a bit to "in your face" i work with fitters who do this all the time and all it does is makes me want to do completely the opposite all that is needed is a "its not a good idea to do that because" and giving a reason atleast makes me think that you are helping rather than hindering sorry again for the attack posted_image

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 8:48 AM

Kool..... and allways remeber, "respect your elders" LoL posted_image

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 9:14 AM

Hey Gary, if you want to be hip & kool you have to spell respekt with a "k" posted_image

All the young installers will think that your in with the times. ** Also remember is spelled with 2 m's *lol*

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: xtreme069
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 8:05 AM

and don't forget that us youngsters allways want the last word!! posted_image

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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 3:27 PM

WERD!!!

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Posted By: fpcelica
Date Posted: August 18, 2005 at 3:53 AM

what system are meant for a standard tranny?

Posted By: fpcelica
Date Posted: August 18, 2005 at 3:54 AM

if i were to get a an alarm that does all the same as my 791vx and be for a standard tranny it would prolly cost me 300 bucks and not 50 i only payed 175 for mine

Posted By: firstclassohio
Date Posted: August 18, 2005 at 2:32 PM

always only has 1 L. LOL

Compustar sells a 2w900fmas alarm remote start 2 way, blows the DEI piece out of the water(we sell both units). If you let me know I can sell you one for $250 plus shipping and handling. Has both manual and auto settings. 3000 ft range. and the battery lasts for months instead of weeks like the DEI piece. The 2 way transmitter works inside of buiildings as well. much better range. I have personally had mine in for 1 1/2 years and the piece is phenominal!!!

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Posted By: 5150azn
Date Posted: August 18, 2005 at 5:07 PM

RS'in a manual car is cool sometimes! Kinda like knight rider. You know that scene from the 1st batman when michael keaton says "Stop" and the batmobile comes to a screaching stop right in front of him. Well thats a drinking game between me and my friends. We play chicken with the invisable driver all the time. LOL Just kidding

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Posted By: firstclassohio
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 8:36 AM

that is cool, then maybe later you can play "put a body cast on your friend game"LOL posted_image

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 8:46 AM

All of Compustar's remote start systems are for manual & auto tranny's

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: firstclassohio
Date Posted: August 19, 2005 at 9:10 AM

the new sytems now have to be ordered specific for auto or manual I just got word from my rep yesterday.

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