begginer with installing alarms
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: begginer with installing alarms
Posted By: dannyboi
Subject: begginer with installing alarms
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 2:28 AM
im just now getting into mobile electronics i learned how to install decks n subs so far n installing an alarm is next on my list... im asking for any opinions in a good way to start out learning ... i learned installing subs n decks from my friends but none of them knows how to install an alarm ... soo if you guys got any opinions it would help a great deal.. thanks again
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"the greatest skill of a person is a skill unknown"
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Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 4:17 AM
whats your level of skill.
do you know how relays work.
do you know how to solder and test wires etc
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Why oh Why didn't i take the blue pill
Darren Power
Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 11:35 AM
I know a few things about alarm installation. I would probably say reading and UNDERSTANDING what you read will be determine how far you will go on your alarm installation. I am sure you must have read something about amp, sub and then ask questions how they functions. Afterwards, you were able to put 2 and 2 together. Why not apply the same strategy? Bottom line is ASK questions if you are not sure or don't understand a concept! I am sure there lots of professional installer here to help you out. The more you read and understand, the better your questions is the better the answer on the respond. ------------- Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. 
Posted By: CRjoslin15
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 2:16 PM
I am in the same boat. Well kind of. I haven't done the previous installs like dannyboi. But, I think I can put 2 and 2 together to get 5. Installs seem like such a daunting task at first, to me at least as a beginner. Let me know if you come up with any good tips. Thanks,
CRJoslin ------------- 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 V6
Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 9:24 PM
nothing better than having an experienced alarm installer take you under his wing. No amount of reading will replace hands on experience and a mentor IMO.
Posted By: hazardus
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 10:43 PM
Just finished mine (for the most part). First off, if you have remote start I suggest you do it last. Keep all wires nice and neat for each connector (zip ties or electric tape). A lot neater and easier if there is a problem. Get at least 2 (I used 3) "cheat sheets". Compare and make sure they're all lining up. If you have a stock alarm it makes it a little easier as you can see where the manufacturer tapped into the wires. Get butt connectors and T-taps of different gauge ranges. Take your time, never rush. For your first time the instruction manual will look mostly foreign to you. I have installed many head units and complete stereo systems, but this is a different ballgame. The best way I've found is to look under the dash and have the manual there. Don't touch, just read. Once you find the wires and get a basic idea of what needs to be done, the install should go a lot smoother. Another think you may concider if you have a short attention span and or lose things easily, is to sit down with your manual and the cheat sheets, and map out what connects to what, and the approx. location of the wire you need for each wire. Other than that, don't get discouraged, and stay calm. By the way- depending on the car, you may need to get a special module to bypass the transponder (immobilizer system). Maybe make friends with some people who work in a mobile shop- they can help if you get stuck. Guess that's about all I know to say except Good Luck!
Posted By: mini14
Date Posted: August 16, 2005 at 11:11 PM
hey i'm in the same boat trying to understand alarms im picking up on it ok i guess i've had to do this before with stock radios and putting in aftermarket amps but i didn't like the way i did it whats the best way of tying into a wire i just used scissors to strip the insulation back and soldered onto the bare and taped over it is that the way to do it?
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Alpine CDA-9847---Alpine MRP-T220---Eclipse 36201---6.5" Type S Components---6.5" Type S Coaxials---2 10" Thunder6000's Isobaric
Posted By: hazardus
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 12:07 AM
I prefer T taps myself. Much cleaner and less hazardous in my opinion. No scalding hot metal to ruin interior either... T taps can be found in about any auto parts store, probably hardware too. Probably even Wal Mart. Just close the connector onto the wire you want, it cuts into it leaving it safe, and then clamp the strip wire into othe other piece and snap it on. Easy on/off then. Also helpful when/if you have to move things around or mess up. Just leave the old tap on and pull the connector and wire to tap into the right wire. By the way... Scissors? Spend $8 dollars and get some wire strippers. You'll need them with alarms.
Posted By: mini14
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 12:37 AM
haha yea scissors i have some wire strippers i never use em though scissors on heavy gauge, but i use my teeth most the time but yea i've seen those before just forgot about em alright thanks man
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Alpine CDA-9847---Alpine MRP-T220---Eclipse 36201---6.5" Type S Components---6.5" Type S Coaxials---2 10" Thunder6000's Isobaric
Posted By: dannyboi
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 12:49 AM
thanks alot, yea i'll try to find somebody who knows how to teach me but in the most part, i will start reading and such first then try to do one myself...again thanks for the comments
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"the greatest skill of a person is a skill unknown"
Posted By: padawan
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 12:51 AM
In my opinion t-taps suck, and are pretty much a joke to ever real installer i've talked to...only the rush em in rush em out shops use t-taps and scotch locks...
I use my strippers, expose the wire, take my test light and poke a hole in the wire..feed wire from alarm into target wire, wrap around a few times, tape, zip tie over it...works great.
Some installers do this method and even solder over the tap and heat shrink tube it...even better...actually that's the only "right" way.
P.S. no the test light isn't clipped to anything like ground or constant when i poke through the wire, i get asked that so much, dunno why, thought i'd clear that up.
Posted By: mini14
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 1:29 AM
cool thats the kinda thing i was looking to hear thanks dude
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Alpine CDA-9847---Alpine MRP-T220---Eclipse 36201---6.5" Type S Components---6.5" Type S Coaxials---2 10" Thunder6000's Isobaric
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 8:36 PM
Muilty meter is another important tool. Check everything before soddering. As for T-Tabs i don't like to use it for remote start wires simply because its like the difference between bondo and lead. On low abuse areas bondo is just fine but some places you have to use lead. But try to keep everything neat. Plan before even starting. And just follow the wiring guide and instructions
Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 8:59 PM
Solder
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 9:02 PM
Its a metaphore sodering makes a better more secure connection. While T-tabs continuity to the wire might lesson over use and time.
Posted By: OhioMike1101
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 9:10 PM
Its a metaphore sodering makes a better more secure connection. While T-tabs continuity to the wire might lesson over use and time.
SOLDER AND T-TAPS
Posted By: fpcelica
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 9:48 PM
so solder and shrink wrap is what is recomended? i was reading the manual say dont use wire taps or electrical tape but i was thinking how else to do you do it. and didnt say what the right way was to do it
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: August 17, 2005 at 9:56 PM
You can use electrical tape for the covering of sodder and a ghetto shrink wrapping. They mean don't use electrical tape to hold the connection there. You have no idea how much i seen this. I just did install yesterday a viper 5000 with a 561t remote start add on on a 97 expedition, there was an alarm in before with a starter kill well the guy reconnected the starter wire with some random black 8 gauge guy didn't use a lone connector or budd connectors, just tape. Not to mention when he took out it out and cut wires from the ignition harness he left a 12 volt constant exposed.
Posted By: fpcelica
Date Posted: August 18, 2005 at 2:18 AM
does ne one use coldheat soldering iron or whatever its called... do you like it?
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