How to steal your car in 3 seconds

So, not knowing any car theives, How do they do it?

In the interest of building a security system that works a little, it would be helpfull to know the basic steps a pro would use to get your ride.

I'm thinking , of some diversionary wires and air horns instead of the cute little siren. Perhaps a flash bang wired under the dash?

Thanks in advance

Velocity Motors wrote:

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Protect your battery at all costs & get a back up battery as well with an alarm system that is 2 way. All the bells and whistles do you no good if the battery wires are cut.

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Good point, is it common for a pro to go to the trouble to disconect the battery, disable the alarm, then reconnect the battery to drive away?

timk053 wrote:

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Good point, is it common for a pro to go to the trouble to disconect the battery, disable the alarm, then reconnect the battery to drive away?

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If you want to protect the car and it's contents and have a chance of catching the theif you have to think that if the thief disables your system, they have all the time in the world to take what they want and also disable the steering lock and they can ( if they want to ) roll the car or place it on a tow truck and drive it away.

Velocity Motors wrote:

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If you want to protect the car and it's contents and have a chance of catching the theif you have to think that if the thief disables your system, they have all the time in the world to take what they want and also disable the steering lock and they can ( if they want to ) roll the car or place it on a tow truck and drive it away.

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I guess that makes good sense. 

I was thinking more allong the lines of trying to slow down someone in a hurry who would break glass, ignore the siren, cut some wires, jimmy the ignition and drive off.  Something a little unexpected that might take them a bit longer to work out, dummy relays, hidden switches, change some color codes etc.  Or by not advertising the fact that the vehicle is armed, I got to think that my air horns going off 2ft from some smuck in the middle of the night might get them to change their plan, or at least change their pants.

But then, why not do both

thanks for your time.

TimK

timk053 wrote:

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I'm loving the airhorn delay.  Any ideas how to wire the timer without getting on the terrorist watch list.

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Use the DEI timer module for this.

Have your exsisting ignition harness become a fake harness. then rewire your key cylinder hidden in like the center consul or behind a fake panel on the dash, that way he couldn't jimmy the key cylinder. Just something i just thought of while reading and i might actually do it to my car.

auex] wrote:

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2 words.

TOW TRUCK!!!

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5150azn wrote:

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Damn guys I grew up in Fresno which was once GTA capital of the world. You guys are damn paranoid. All you need is a back up battery. Thats it! The pros will break in and disconnect your battery. Then they can do with your car as you wish. But with a back up battery that is properly installed the theif will have to get under the dash and try to figure out the install. Thats too much to ask of a guy thats trying to make a quick getaway.

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That's what I said in my first post.

my gf lost her remote at a theme park, so having some alarm knowledge, i just popped the hood disconnected the battery, got under the dash and disconnected the alarm module, which i just reached under the dash and moved my hand around to find... then i just connected the battery and we drove off.

if someone really wants your car, they'll take it, no matter what... but if you wanna give the average car theif a hard time.. get a battery back up... interior sirens like the air horn.. thats a good idea.. in addition to the battery back up get a hood lock, which you can get from dei.. incase they prop that open and disconnect your battery you stil have the backup... hide your internal wiring as well as your alarm module and your sirens, make everything as difficult as possible to get to. as far as preventing the theft of your head unit or audio system.. use uncommon screws to fasten them to your vehicle as oppose to the traditional phillips.. maybe even those locks they sell for laptops... i donno. those are just some things to consider..

what i did for mine was this:

relocated the alarm brain(don't just have it hanging in with the ignition harness)

add back up battery

i have 13 sirens on mine(6 outside under the hood, 4 in the rear outside, 2 piezo's inside, and 1 regular 514n inside)

a digital tilt sesor

proximity sensor

remote hood latch(i used a solenoid to pop my hood and bolted the hood release cable to my firewall, this way if they try to break the window and pop the hood they will be in for a suprise!)

all of the wiring for my alarm is the same color wire

2 way paging alarm

and make sure to loom and tape everything so it looks stock as possible

All of these work great as a theft deterent. just remember that it is only a theft deterent. if somebody wants your car, there gonna get it one way or another. all you can do is make it as difficult as ppossible for them to do so. hope this helps with some ideas. happy installing!

blazeronspokes wrote:

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what i did for mine was this:

relocated the alarm brain(don't just have it hanging in with the ignition harness)

add back up battery

i have 13 sirens on mine(6 outside under the hood, 4 in the rear outside, 2 piezo's inside, and 1 regular 514n inside)

a digital tilt sesor

proximity sensor

remote hood latch(i used a solenoid to pop my hood and bolted the hood release cable to my firewall, this way if they try to break the window and pop the hood they will be in for a suprise!)

all of the wiring for my alarm is the same color wire

2 way paging alarm

and make sure to loom and tape everything so it looks stock as possible

All of these work great as a theft deterent. just remember that it is only a theft deterent. if somebody wants your car, there gonna get it one way or another. all you can do is make it as difficult as ppossible for them to do so. hope this helps with some ideas. happy installing!

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blazeronspokes wrote:

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what i did for mine was this:

relocated the alarm brain(don't just have it hanging in with the ignition harness)

add back up battery

i have 13 sirens on mine(6 outside under the hood, 4 in the rear outside, 2 piezo's inside, and 1 regular 514n inside)

a digital tilt sesor

proximity sensor

remote hood latch(i used a solenoid to pop my hood and bolted the hood release cable to my firewall, this way if they try to break the window and pop the hood they will be in for a suprise!)

all of the wiring for my alarm is the same color wire

2 way paging alarm

and make sure to loom and tape everything so it looks stock as possible

All of these work great as a theft deterent. just remember that it is only a theft deterent. if somebody wants your car, there gonna get it one way or another. all you can do is make it as difficult as ppossible for them to do so. hope this helps with some ideas. happy installing!

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Hey i gotta give him credit for it, but 12 sirens? Little over kill don't ya think.

blazeronspokes wrote:

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what i did for mine was this:

relocated the alarm brain(don't just have it hanging in with the ignition harness)

add back up battery

i have 13 sirens on mine(6 outside under the hood, 4 in the rear outside, 2 piezo's inside, and 1 regular 514n inside)

a digital tilt sesor

proximity sensor

remote hood latch(i used a solenoid to pop my hood and bolted the hood release cable to my firewall, this way if they try to break the window and pop the hood they will be in for a suprise!)

all of the wiring for my alarm is the same color wire

2 way paging alarm

and make sure to loom and tape everything so it looks stock as possible

All of these work great as a theft deterent. just remember that it is only a theft deterent. if somebody wants your car, there gonna get it one way or another. all you can do is make it as difficult as ppossible for them to do so. hope this helps with some ideas. happy installing!

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How in the hell does the solenoid pop open your hood if you had a dead battery?  And how do you change the  dead battery that is under the hood?  Are 4 sirens going off really that much louder then just 1 under the hood? 

I do give you credit, but remember one thing,  It only takes 5 seconds for a tow truck to lift the back of your car up and take it down the road a mile or 2 and strap it down.  I see people park in the wrong parking lots on Miami Beach and they snag em' out there all the time.  Kinda funny actually. 

If I was as paranoid as you I would put an ancor in the ground 4 feet down and about 30 Cu.  Ft. of concrete around it and a chain it down with some 80 grades stainless steel chain.  I think the 1 1/4" chain should do ya.  Actualy to help ya out i included a link on where to buy the chain.  https://https://www.gatorsupply.com/chnssalys.htm

Yahoo!! .....smoking good info, wiring brain overload.

So let me recap.....

I need 10-12 more sirens, seems like air horns ought to count for 2 or 3, another battery (or two), someting called a pipe gun, 12 ga I'm guessing, a countdown timer from DEI (wonder if Jr. makes em), a really nice chain, some concrete, lots more tape, some odd screws, another battery, rock deflector, jumper cables, another ignition harness, more tape, oh... and pay my insurance.

Sounds like I've got some shoping to do....

Lots of good info thx.

timk

Check out this product:  Ravelco Anti Theft Device.  Lots of good information about how no one has ever been able to "hotwire" a car with Ravelco. 

www.neverstolen.com

aurora4.0 wrote:

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Check out this product:  Ravelco Anti Theft Device.  Lots of good information about how no one has ever been able to "hotwire" a car with Ravelco. 

www.neverstolen.com

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