I cant get the remote start to work

Do you have 2 seperate issues or are you saying the door trigger problem is causing your remote start problem?

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Steve G

I can't imagine why a door trigger would cause you remote starter not to function unless you're using the hood trigger input wire instead of the door tigger. The door triggers shouldn't do anything to stop the starter from functioning. This isn't a manual transmission remote start unit is it?

if that's the case is the vehicle manual or automatic? Is the unit set for manual operation?

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Steve G

MANUAL TRANSMISSION MODE
On manual transmission vehicles, the remote
start feature will not operate unless the proper
vehicle exit sequence is performed. This
operating mode protects against in-gear
starting but is not completely without risk.
Installation and safe use of the remote start
feature on a manual transmission vehicle is at
the sole risk of the vehicle’s owner, and the
manufacturer assumes no liability for
installation in manual transmission vehicles.
Manual Transmission Safe Mode Exit Sequence:
With the engine running and the parking brake
set, press the unlock button. Turn ignition off
(engine will stay running) and open the doors,
then exit the vehicle. When all doors are
closed, press lock button to turn off the engine
and arm the system. The system will be able to
remote start as long as the alarm is not
disarmed prior to remote starting.

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Steve G

Sounds like iskidoo might be on to something make sure you dont have your door trigger and your hood switch wires mixed up.

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checked that they are fine, and yes it is a manual.

What color wire are you using from the alarm brain for your door trigger?

Blue/Red?    <<<This is the one you need
Blue/Black?

What color are you hooking to in the truck?
BLACK/ lt. blue    (+)


You do understand how to use the Manual Transmission Safe Mode Exit Sequence right?

https://blackwidowsecurity.com/currentpdf/x-z%20series%20complete%20rev2.pdf

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Steve G

I have blue/red from the alarm hooked to the BLACK/ Lt blue in the DKP

so I guess no one has put one of these Black Widows in a 2002 F350 SD before???

Ok I'll ask again...You do understand how to use the Manual Transmission Safe Mode Exit Sequence right?

What steps are you going through before trying to remote start?

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Steve G

yes I do, I follow the sequence in the manual and also I have been talking with Tech support for the last 3 days on this problem from Black Widow but no quck yet.  now when I set the system to run as a automatic the remote starts just fine.

So you have your clutch properly bypassed?
When you try the remote start sequence in manual mode, is the engine staying running when you remove the key before you exit the vehicle?

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Steve G

yes that part works fine. and yes to the clutch bypassed.

Ok so you exit the vehicle....do you wait until the interior dome lights turn off and then try the lock button.

Could you be trying to lock the car before the door circuit polarity has changed back to normal because the dome light is still on?

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Steve G

now that I have not done I have been locking as soon as I shut the doors

The alarm brain works by sensing the door polarity change. So if the lights is still on then the alarm will still think the door is open when your hitting lock.

So you do have like a 30 second dome light supervision feature built in to the truck from the factory?

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Steve G

yes I do, I'll have to give it a try when I get back from CO. in a few days.  But it dont  make any sense that the remote start works in the automatic setting

Sure it makes sense. let me know if this explaination is hard to understand. I'll try to clarify as best as I can. The manual reservation mode is alot more complex than the automatic mode. The automatic mode just looks to make sure the hood pin isn't active and the brake isn't pressed. then it will start. The manual mode (to ensure safe operation) however relies heavily on that door trigger wire. By exiting the vehicle with the engine running, it pretty much insures that you have the vehicle out of gear and the e-brake engaged. How else would you safely exit the vehicle. The way that the system insures that noone can get in and bump the shifter into gear or release the e-brake is to monitor that door pin. When your doing the exit sequence your opening the door which changes the negative on the door wire to positive. When you shut the door it changes back from positive to negative. The alarm now can shut down the engine and it is considered safe to remote start. If your domelight is on when your trying to complete the safety sequence then it doesn't see that negative it needs to see. It in turn thinks the door is still open so it won't allow the reservation mode to complete, because if the doors open you can still mess with safety settings like shifter and e-brake.

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Steve G

With the automatic setting the unit does not have to take into account all the safty checklist that are in place. Just the minimum requirement, which is why it will start without any problem. On the other hand, since you are using Manual Transmission Safe Mode Exit Sequence it has to account for all the safety check list. Because there is domelight delay the check list is not all mark off, the remote start will not work. I don't quite remember the vehicle, but is there a small courtesy light under the drivers panel? You can use that one if there is since it got no delay there.   

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Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.

The BLACK / YELLOW catches the drivers door and the BLACK/ pink catches the passengers door. The wires are found in there respective door harnesses. On the Super Crew the rear door trigger is BLACK/ lt. blue low in the driver kick panel. Use all wires and diode isolate each. Both wires may also be found at the GEM module located above the fuse box. On models without a dome light delay use ORANGE / lt. green (-) at the light switch.

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