V91XV in 1999 Dakota, Fuse Blowing
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=63824
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 12:31 PM
Topic: V91XV in 1999 Dakota, Fuse Blowing
Posted By: polishmike
Subject: V91XV in 1999 Dakota, Fuse Blowing
Date Posted: October 04, 2005 at 9:38 AM
Hey all, Like the title says, im installing a V91XV with dual stage and audio sensors on a 1999 Dodge Dakota R/T 5.9. Im new to alarms but ive done plenty of stereos and whatnot. Anyway, i have some basic questions, that ive searched for and have a pretty good idea about but would like them clarified. H1/3 - Not used in my case, correct? H2/1 - Factory disarm - This goes to relay, then goes to the disarm but H2/2 goes to the same wire? Can someone clarify that for me? Door Lock Harness - From what i read i have to "five wire" my door locks. Can someone clarify that please? Do i set up two relays like it shows on the diagrams on this site? Heavy Guage inline- I cut the starter wire and the green goes to the key side and purple to the starter side, correct? 3,6, 8 - Are these constant 12v or switched? I think thats it for now, thanks guys.
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Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 04, 2005 at 11:22 PM
Hey, im installing a 971vx on my 99 dakota r/t 5.9
I have everything setup and it looks like it works except the door locks. from what i have read i need to "5 wire" the locks. I wired it according to this diagram -
Now whenever i plug the 12v line into a 12v source i automatically blow the fuse. What could i be doing wrong here?
Thanks guys
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 04, 2005 at 11:30 PM
u only have to five wire the unlock...........wire 85 (positive unlock wire from brain) 86 (ground) 87 (12volt constant) 87a (pink/purple wire into car) 30 (pink/purple to unlock motor) that is right u have to cut the wire......try the switch first before unlocking.....the lock wire is postive signal....no 5wire
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 04, 2005 at 11:48 PM
same thing. Wired it that way and the fuse pops as soon as i plug 87 in.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:00 AM
r u sure u have the right wire? how did u test the wire.....
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:06 AM
I have the door panel off. Going to the lock motor are 5 wires (maybe 4, dont remember) 1 is pink/black, one is ORANGE / black the rest are black. I probed the pink/purple one with my multimeter and hit the unlock, jumped to 12. Hit lock it goes to like .6. Im pretty sure thats right. I then cut that in half. I hooked up the swith and motor side how you described. When i go to hook up the 12v the fuse instantly blows (without trying to lock or unlock). Any ideas?
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:07 AM
pink/purple not pink black.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:10 AM
try.....getting the pink/purple in the driver kick panel......also do u have factory keyless entry......let me know.....if u dont....then a 5wire is not needed. ------------- Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:25 AM
I do have original keyless entry. Ill try to get the other wire tomorrow, dont see how that would help though. I need to buy some more fuses... lol
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:31 AM
let me know how it goes......i have a few more thngs u can try also ------------- Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:34 AM
What else can i do?
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 1:16 AM
did u try the factory switch...even when the fuse was blown?
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 9:27 AM
when that fuse blows the factory switch along with the dome light do not work. Is that normal?
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 12:02 PM
what fuse it blowing? Where did u get the 12vconstant from? and no that is not normal.....tell me where u have each wire running to, exact location, 86, 85, 87a, 87, 30
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 3:34 PM
Door Lock fuse is blowing. I got the 12v constant from the harness in the door panel. (could this be causing the problem???) Wired the relay just like you said 85 is +unlock from brain 86 is ground 87 is the constant 12v 87a switch side lock motor wire 30 is motor side motor wire. As soon as i touch the 12v wire the door lock fuse pops.
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 4:02 PM
CHECK YOUR RELAY / S
Are you using SPDT Relays?? ( Single Pole Double Throw ) Where did you get them?
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MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 4:06 PM
mo12v] wrote:
HECK YOUR RELAY / S
Are you using SPDT Relays?? ( Single Pole Double Throw ) Where did you get them?
Im pretty sure. They're bosch from kragen. Is there any other relays with all the same connections and look the same that arent SPDT relays?
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 4:18 PM
SPST Relays look the same......PIN 87 & 87a are the same
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MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:41 PM
Well this has 5 contacts. doesnt that make it a spdt?
Anyhow, i double checked and they ARE SPDT relays for sure.
TO clarify, im using 1 relay, wired how i wrote above. Any ideas??
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:58 PM
from what the other guy helping me out said i only have to "5 wire" the unlock. I assumed that meant that i only use one relay.
When i tried with two it did the same thing.
So am i supposed to be using a two relay setup? this is a 1999 dodge dakota r/t 5.9.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 6:59 PM
am i crazy or did you delete your next reply after this?
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 7:03 PM
am i crazy or did you delete your next reply after this?
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 7:07 PM
Sorry...I noticed the 99 Dakota.. 2 SPDT RELAYS: Relay 1
Cut Orange Violet in Half:
LOCK:
PIN 87 = 12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = wire from Door Lock Switch
PIN 30 = wire from Door Lock Actuator
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + ) Relay 2
Cut Pink/Violet wire in half
UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = wire from Door Lock Switch
PIN 30 = wire from Door Lock Actuator
PIN 85 = Negative UNLock Output Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + ) Self Check:
With NOTHING hooked to Relay:
Meter PIN 30 & 87a should be closed....
Meter PIN 30 & 87 should be Open If NOT...WRONG RELAY / S ------------- MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 10:36 PM
double check your connection switch/motor. use SPDT relays.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 10:43 PM
direct wire tells me u only have five wire the unlock only and not the lock......also u only have to do the 5wire on the ones with factory keyless.
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 10:49 PM
try get 12volts from the batt. or the ignition harness.....be sure to fuse that wire also.....try this also.....wire up everything except for pin 87.....then try the factory switch.....if it works then u have it wired properly, unless u have the motor side of the wire u cut and the switch side of the wire backwards. let me know what results u get. ------------- Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: polishmike
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 11:44 PM
yah, im officially an idiot. I checked the diagram i got with the relays. Turns out of course they are not SPDT. the audio shop i bought them from told me they were. I checked the drawing and it has both 87 and 87a the same. Anyway, went back there and got the right ones. Now i did that and only the drivers side locks/unlocks, this is my personal car and i need it in the next few days so its not a big deal but what wires would i have to tap for both the drivers and passager to open? the chart says light green and orange in the drivers kick. I see like 3939424209 of those wires and ive tried to test them all and none seem to work. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help guys.
Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 06, 2005 at 8:24 AM
Hook up is listed above............. | Power Lock | ORANGE / VIOLET | 16 PIN BLACK CONNECTOR | | Power Unlock | PINK/VIOLET | IN DRIVER KICK PANEL |
Reversal Rest At Ground Door Locks ------------- MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 06, 2005 at 9:06 AM
this is the info i have......like i said....u should only need one relay and not 2......relay only needed on the unlock.... | Power Lock | org/pur or grn/blk | + | drivers kick panel | | Power Unlock | pink/purple | + | drivers kick panel | | Notes: Vehicles with keyless entry, have to 5 wire the unlock wire. |
------------- Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: blazeronspokes
Date Posted: October 07, 2005 at 9:49 AM
i love 5 wire doorlocks. they make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. 
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