Viper 2 Way problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=63844
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 9:59 PM
Topic: Viper 2 Way problem
Posted By: Zx2guy
Subject: Viper 2 Way problem
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 11:08 AM
It's not a huge problem, but definitly a very annoying one. I've had the Viper 690 XV system (DEI has replaced it with the Viper 5000 setup, same system but with an extra remote) installed on one of my vehicles for almost a year now with no problems ever arising. The other day I go out to unlock the car, I press the button and nothing, the remote displays the single antenna flashing (no audio chirp from the remote) showing there was no response/out of range (while I'm standing about 3m from the car). I hit the lock button (to see if the remote is actually transmitting) and the car chripped once, I press the panic button, the alarm sounds then is silenced when I press it again. I try to unlock again, the car unlocks, but the remote says it's still locked, then the antenna flashes again on the remote (no chirp from the remote again). Sometimes if I quickly press a button to check the alarm status the remote will update and show the car in it's actual stated, locked or unlocked.
The lock/unlock problem happens completely randomly, sometimes I'll have to press lock 2 or 3 times before it works and it still shows that there is no response from the brain, other times it'll be the same results with the attempting to unlock the car. And sometimes it'll work the exact way it's supposed to.
What I do know, the battery is good, the remote has not been exposed to any water and I haven't done any work under the dash lately. Any ideas?
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Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 11:55 AM
try unhooking the ant. and pulling batt. out of remote....if that doesnt work then try different remote and see if it is still doing it......if it does it after that chances r u have a problem with the systems brain.
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 5:02 PM
So I took the car back to the shop that installed in and they replaced the brain and remote.
HOWEVER, they put in a 791 brain as that was all they had in stock. They gave me an option of buying the whole system (about 260.00+tax installed) but I don't have the cash right now. I sorta missed out on a good deal but maybe down the road I can get ahold of the wiring harnesses. If that's possible. :)
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 10:14 PM
dude that is a good deal for u.....the 791 is more expensive and it is a remote start....not just security
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 10:19 PM
did they give u the remote start relay pack and all the extra harness'?
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Where theres is a wire there's a way.
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 11:12 PM
Nope, that's where $160 woulda come into play, then another $100 for installation... So I've got a semi useless brain sitting under my dash right now...
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 05, 2005 at 11:19 PM
It was a new installer I was dealing with as well. The guy that did all my work before was no longer with the company. Chances are if I bought the whole system he woulda installed it for free... If that was the case I would have bought it...
Posted By: blazeronspokes
Date Posted: October 06, 2005 at 9:46 AM
if the alarm works then you have all the components for the remote start. the alarm will not see ignition power without the relay pack(there is no ignition wire on the main harness. it recieves ignition through the ralay satalite and ribbon cable).
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 06, 2005 at 11:39 AM
blazeronspokes wrote:
if the alarm works then you have all the components for the remote start. the alarm will not see ignition power without the relay pack(there is no ignition wire on the main harness. it recieves ignition through the ralay satalite and ribbon cable).
I was pretty sure the most important part was obviously the brain. What components am I missing that are critical to the system working and where can I get hold of them? :)
Posted By: blazeronspokes
Date Posted: October 07, 2005 at 9:42 AM
you ahouldn't be missing any if the alarm works properly. i juat think those guys were trying to shaft you into paying extra money for them to hook up a few wires. included with the viper 791 is this: brain relay satalite ribbon cable led antenna shock sensor 3 pin door lock plug 451m siren hoodpin 12 pin pimary harness 6 pin seconary harness 5 pin remte start secondary harness i think thats all.
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 07, 2005 at 10:16 AM
Interesting.... all they would have had to do was reprogram a new remote. We generally keep 4 or 5 responder remotes in stock at any given time, due to their lovely construction quality.
Great unit, fragile remote (the blue ones are way better than the white ones, I'll give them that)
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 07, 2005 at 10:41 AM
gus1]I wrote:
teresting.... all they would have had to do was reprogram a new remote. We generally keep 4 or 5 responder remotes in stock at any given time, due to their lovely construction quality.
Great unit, fragile remote (the blue ones are way better than the white ones, I'll give them that)
Gus
They tried just reprogramming a new remote, but the system still wasn't working right.
Posted By: Zx2guy
Date Posted: October 07, 2005 at 10:43 AM
blazeronspokes wrote:
you ahouldn't be missing any if the alarm works properly. i juat think those guys were trying to shaft you into paying extra money for them to hook up a few wires. included with the viper 791 is this: brain relay satalite ribbon cable led antenna shock sensor 3 pin door lock plug 451m siren hoodpin 12 pin pimary harness 6 pin seconary harness 5 pin remte start secondary harness i think thats all.
All the guy did was plug in the new brain and gave me the remote. He said I don't get the remote start stuff because I paid for an alarm originally, not a remote starter. If it's worth anything is Future Shop that's done all this. I only went there for the original install because the head installer (the one whose no longer there) is a friend of mine.
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