Viper 785xv
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Printed Date: May 19, 2024 at 10:29 PM
Topic: Viper 785xv
Posted By: Justaguy
Subject: Viper 785xv
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 10:52 AM
Anyone done any of these yet? They look like the Hornet 564T. Are they any good? Range? Do they have in car temperature on the remote? Some info would be great before i bring these in the store. Thanks. -------------
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Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 18, 2005 at 11:53 AM
Identical to the Valet 554R, uses the XCRS. Pretty slick piece, have a dozen or so coming in this week with the rest of my order. Should be a solid unit. The only PITA is setting the clock on the remote.
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: Justaguy
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 3:42 AM
Just put one in my truck tonight(2003 Silverado SS)... It coming out tomorrow, freaking POS. No range, the install and owners manuals(photocopied paper folded in half and stapled) are all wrong, won't display in-car tempature. At least i didn't sell any to customers. Thanks for wasting my time DEI... I'll throw in a Compustar instead. -------------
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 10:16 AM
Interesting.....
The 554R was a good piece. Wonder why this thing would be any different. I mean, apparently all they did was change the relay satellite thing to the current version, and away it goes.
Interesting...
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 4:57 PM
it's a poor musician who blames his instrument....
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: Justaguy
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 12:26 AM
kgerry wrote:
it's a poor musician who blames his instrument....
So what are you trying to say? You have installed alot of 785xv's? They work well for you? Please elaborate. -------------
Posted By: ihookitup4u
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 3:38 AM
The only time I have ever gotten a alarm with a folded stapled manual was not dei direct it was from a dist warehouse and it was b stock. I know those r new and all but ??? They have been good to me I have had no problem with it and for that matter the 03 chev has problems of there own like the purple wire magic converter box, I hate those totaly at the mercy of technology and I just like to wire stuff myself, many of those converters are just crap and cause more problem than anything. But it beats going into every door etc...
Dont stop chewing gum just cause you got a stale piece once.
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 9:22 AM
Justaguy wrote:
Anyone done any of these yet? They look like the Hornet 564T.
Are they any good? Range? Do they have in car temperature on the remote?
Some info would be great before i bring these in the store. Thanks.
You would have known all about them if you were at directed training this past monday night, Duane went ove rit in a bit of detail. ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 10:13 AM
You guys have DEI training seminars???? Jesus, I can't even get our rep to return a phone call..... (ask Duane about Gary in MB sometime...)
So, it is pretty much an updated 554R, from what I gather, isn't it?
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 12:27 PM
its exactly like the Hornet 564 which is essentially the Valet/Avital 554R but with the newer XCRS pack...... i havent had any issues with them.... (BTW Gus, i set the clock on these babies in about 7 seconds lol) ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 1:55 PM
Ahhh yes.... but the first time, without looking at the manual is a real bastard.
I remember sitting in Clarion training, and they were sending the remote for the SR5000 thing (same unit as the 785/554, just says Ungo on it). Other shop head installer dares me to set the clock.... oce it started to beep and freak out, the trainer just says to the crowd "there's always one in every seminar, and it's usually an installer".
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 5:07 PM
i hear ya.... BTW, Manitoba DEI tech training is in Winnipeg on the 26th reps are rather useless aren't they?? you only hear from them when they want something.......
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 5:40 PM
26th of what, Oct?? Like as in Wed? Hah.... nice of them to tell me. They could almost do a session out here in Brandon... Visions, FS, and us (Krazy Krazy). 5 installers, coupla salespeople.
Reps? I don;'t even hear from mine when he needs something. See him like maybe 2x a year, If we're lucky. Not like it's a far drive out of Wpg. (180ish km?)
Meh....
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 5:45 PM
i can relate bro, we have the same rep...
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: Justaguy
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 7:36 PM
extreme1 wrote:
Justaguy wrote:
Anyone done any of these yet? They look like the Hornet 564T. Are they any good? Range? Do they have in car temperature on the remote? Some info would be great before i bring these in the store. Thanks.
You would have known all about them if you were at directed training this past monday night, Duane went ove rit in a bit of detail.
He didn't say anything about them being this crappy -------------
Posted By: Justaguy
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 7:40 PM
kgerry wrote:
its exactly like the Hornet 564 which is essentially the Valet/Avital 554R but with the newer XCRS pack...... i havent had any issues with them.... (BTW Gus, i set the clock on these babies in about 7 seconds lol)
Are you quoting from experience with the hornet piece or the viper. They aren't the same... want me to prove it? -------------
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 22, 2005 at 10:42 AM
i didnt say anything about the Viper... you said it "looked just like" the 564.....i was talking about the Hornet 564 and the Valet/Avital 554R... which both my staff and friends have and are very happy with... i had a 554R in my own vehicle and liked it.... the bottom line is, if it's properly installed, it's a nice little unit..... the features work as advertised.... if you dont like it... dont sell it ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 22, 2005 at 11:53 AM
Actually, I will echo Kevin. We were pissed when we couldn't get the Valet 554R anymore.... one of our better sellers, actually. I can't wait to get this piece in, we will more than likely move 3-4/week.
It's been awhile since DEI released a real stinker (150HF comes to mind...), and this is a proven platform that has been around for awhile. Poor musician will always blame their instrument......
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 28, 2005 at 9:35 AM
Finally got me a case of these things.... a few things:
1) It is the manual for the 554R in there. The unit is actually identical to the 791XV as far as programming, function, and outputs.
2) The combo LED/Valet switch is chintzy, but you only need to drill one hole. Slick (until it breaks)
3) Xeroxed owner's manual is cheezy... hopefully the next batch will have the proper documentation in the box.
Other than that, I'm putting it into my 2004 VW TDI Manual on Sunday just beacuse I am getting sick and tired of starting the car with the key when it's cold out. I want to sit on warm leather, dammit!
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
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