791xv multi-remore programming
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Printed Date: May 15, 2025 at 2:09 AM
Topic: 791xv multi-remore programming
Posted By: jameseric
Subject: 791xv multi-remore programming
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 5:34 PM
I have a 791in one of my cars and would like to add one to my other car. How can I program both remotes to operate both systems? Thanks, James
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Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 6:23 PM
So when you go out to Unlock your vehicle to go to work, you Unlock the other vehicle & leave it Disarmed?
Or when you R / S your vehicle & get in it to leave, you leave the other one running?
HHMMMM, & I thought I was the only one perpendicular to the straight edge...
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MO
Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.
Posted By: jameseric
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 10:23 PM
ROTFLMAO. You are funny but I think it will work better if I select the car before using the remote. According to DEI each remote can operate up to 4 cars but they won't tell me how to program the remotes. If anyone knows please share the secret.
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 20, 2005 at 10:27 PM
jameseric wrote:
ROTFLMAO. You are funny but I think it will work better if I select the car before using the remote. According to DEI each remote can operate up to 4 cars but they won't tell me how to program the remotes. If anyone knows please share the secret.
The remotes have to have the 5th button on the rear at the bottom of the remote. ------------- Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: jameseric
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 7:43 AM
The remotes have the "P" button on the back.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 10:34 AM
those remotes are for the new AM product, not the FM product like the 791... sorry.... the new units like the 5000 or Clifford 10.5 which give you this feature of selecting vehicle A or B are an AM unit.... these remotes are not compatible with the FM Responder units..... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:09 PM
Last bunch of 479V's I got in have the P on the back (holding one right now). As a matter of fact, I've been programming P buttoned remotes to responder units for a few months now. I think there is actually an identical, but different part numbered responder remote that goes with the 5000 (has the bargraph along the bottom). Peeling through the manual for both the 791 and the 479V, it looks like it doesen't do 2nd car. The 5000 is, however capable of this.
Once could order a couple of the newer AM antennas and associated remotes though, and do it that way.
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: jameseric
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:21 PM
I have a 791xv system with a remote that has a "P" program button on the back. It has been installed and operating for 6 months without any problems. It is the remote that can out of the brand new 791xv box. If I get another matching 791xv unit can I program to meet my needs?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:29 PM
the newer units Viper 5000, Clifford 10.5 say they are Responder on the box...but are AM.... the older Responder models like the Clifford 3.5 are FM and i was under the impression (directly from Directed) that they are not compatible... my Clifford 10.5's (holding one in my hand too) are the new AM "Responder" units which are actually only Responder looking... as they are more similar to the 554/564 than to the 3.5/791....they dont send and receive on a split bandwidth like true Responder units... nor do they have the range of the FM units.... it's just DEI's way of giving you less while thinking you are getting more..... hey jameseric, does the antenna that came with your unit have the long dipole legs that go out the sides about 6 inches or is it the small nubby antenna? someone may have swapped out your FM gear for the lesser range AM stuff..... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jameseric
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:36 PM
I have the two that go out to the side. What does that mean? BTW, thanks for helping get to the bottom of this.
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:38 PM
The AM has less range? Hmmm.... according to the spooks at DEI, it was supposed to have more range.
Dammit. Typical though.
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:50 PM
The AM has less range? Hmmm.... according to the spooks at DEI, it was supposed to have more range.
Dammit. Typical though.
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 2:53 PM
I remember thinking that the Viper 790/791xv would be able to control more than one vehicle. The way the manual was worded I think just gave me that impression. But after further investigation realized that the system can learn 4 remotes but the remotes can differentiate between different vehicles.
Excert from the install guide:
The system comes with one transmitter that have been taught to the receiver. The receiver can store up to 4 different transmitter codes in memory. Use the following learn routine to add transmitters to the system or to change button assignments if desired.
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Steve G
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 3:41 PM
yes with the older 791, Clifford 1.5/3.5 etc you can learn the same remote to more than one vehicle, but if you and your wife, etc. each have a car parked in proximity there is no way to have it not start or unlock both vehicles.... the new units Viper 5000 or Clifford 10.5 have the new remote that allows you to toggle between vehicles, a nice new feature.... i'm amazed that you say it works on your 791, it's not supposed to be able to, being that the dipole Responder antenna is FM vs. the nubby AM antenna that comes with the new product....unless you have the wrong model number... or unless as usual DEI is treating me like a mushroom again..... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jameseric
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 4:05 PM
This is the remote. It has a "P" programming button on the back.
Posted By: gus1
Date Posted: October 21, 2005 at 4:57 PM
Had to "build" a 791 once, only had 560XV's and 5000's in stock, so, plugged in the 5000 antenna, learned the remote. You get a different running icon, forget what else was different on the display.
I think I'm throwing a 785XV in the car when they get here for the hell of it. Getting sick and tired of starting the diesel with the valet key, locking the doors, and going back inside to finish my coffee for 20min to wait for it to warm up. Actually, I'm surprised that I don't have a starter in this thing.... had it for 2 years now.
Carpenter's house... I tell ya.
Gus
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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
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