Cobalt remote start problems

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Topic: Cobalt remote start problems

Posted By: serialthrlla
Subject: Cobalt remote start problems
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 1:10 PM

Here's the deal.. I installed an automate AM6 with 555l in an 06 cobalt.. I tested all wires before hooking them up.. when you try to remote start the ign. powers up but no crank. I've tried relearning the Rcode several times, no luck.. I took out the 555l and hooked up relays to bypass.. still no luck.. one thing I did find though, If I insert the key in the cylinder and leave it in the off position, it will remote start.. this leads be to believe it needs the keysense wire hooked up but the keysense wire is also the Rcode wire.. Can anyone out there gimme a hand as to what I need to do.. dei doc. 1610 did not work for me, so ihave it hooked up like the doc. for colorados, 1601 I think.. anyway you can email at serialthrlla@msn.com
any help would be greatly appreciated

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Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 6:45 PM

Sounds like You don't have the correct R ( resistance ) Code

I don't have good luck with the DEI units on a few GM cars...........

I use the OMEGA ByPASS: IB-PLXR....... OR:

GM Maxx Transponder Interface: Malibu MAXX PASSKEY/ PASSLOCK (IB-G7)


GM Passlock 1 & 2 & VATS & Saturn Ion Self Learning (IB-PLXR)

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Posted By: serialthrlla
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 9:11 PM

I have double checked the R code several times

Posted By: serialthrlla
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 9:15 PM

also the car start with the key in the cylinder, in the off postition... coreect me if I'm wrong but doesn't the R code get created/sent when two contact pass each other when the key is turned..

I THINK I just need it to think a key is in, but the keysense wire is also the passlock wire.. Can I hook the staus output to it without it interfereing with the R code?

Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 9:41 PM

R code is created at the CRANK position..

Try this for more info:

https://www.wiringinstructions.com/241.htm

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Posted By: Montrealler
Date Posted: October 23, 2005 at 9:45 PM

The 2006 model are equipped with both passloc and transponder. You will need to use a key head to override the security. Supose that if the ignition is present and the accessory turn off at crank the car will start without the passloc resistor.

Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 8:37 AM

this car does in fact have pk3+ not standard pk3 so if you use a bypass that is not a u- module make sure it is for pk3 + a.k.a. circle plus if you are going to use a U module a new style mailibu key will work if they are all out of the 06 cobalt keys. just make sure that the malibu key is for 04 or newer

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 8:53 AM

Where did you get your R-Code wire from ? Make sure that you grabbed the ACC and IGN wire from the key cylinder.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 8:55 AM

Velocity Motors wrote:

Where did you get your R-Code wire from ? Make sure that you grabbed the ACC and IGN wire from the key cylinder.

jeff i spoke to this guy on the phone... it is an 06 with pk3 + not tho older ones with the pk2 resistance based anti theft. he is going to put a 556 u on the car. i have done several of the 06 cobalt and they are pk3+ now

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 9:04 AM

Hey misterjimbo, do you know if this is the same as the '05 Pontiac Pursuits ? I'm wondering cause I use the PLXR for these systems and no problems for me.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 9:13 AM

Velocity Motors wrote:

Hey misterjimbo, do you know if this is the same as the '05 Pontiac Pursuits ? I'm wondering cause I use the PLXR for these systems and no problems for me.

well the pursuit is the sister car to the cobalt so i would assume so. i however have not actually worked on one of the pontiacs yet.

i just realized you said 05... in 05 the cobalt was pk2 like the saturn ion... but now it is pk3+ if you check an 06 pursuit i am sure you will see that it has probably switched to pk3+ as well. btw damn jeff i have not been on this site in forever.. good to see you are still hangin out helpin ppl.

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 9:20 AM

misterjimbo wrote:

well the pursuit is the sister car to the cobalt so i would assume so. i however have not actually worked on one of the pontiacs yet.
i just realized you said 05... in 05 the cobalt was pk2 like the saturn ion... but now it is pk3+ if you check an 06 pursuit i am sure you will see that it has probably switched to pk3+ as well. btw damn jeff i have not been on this site in forever.. good to see you are still hangin out helpin ppl.

Thanks for the info. I'll have to wait to see next time I get in a newer Cobalt or Pursuit.

misterjimbo wrote:

btw damn jeff i have not been on this site in forever.. good to see you are still hangin out helpin ppl.

Bad habits are hard to break posted_image

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: serialthrlla
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 2:23 PM

Misterjimbo was correct.. I had everything hooked up properly, just minus the 556U. I added that in today and it worked perfectly.. thanks for the help

Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 3:49 PM

serialthrlla wrote:

Misterjimbo was correct.. I had everything hooked up properly, just minus the 556U. I added that in today and it worked perfectly.. thanks for the help

PKG7 does PK3+

you don't even have to wire into the ignition harness with this unit.

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta

Posted By: serialthrlla
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 8:28 PM

that would be awesome, who makes the pgk7 and where can I get them?

Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: October 24, 2005 at 8:38 PM

serialthrlla wrote:

that would be awesome, who makes the pgk7 and where can I get them?

Made by OMEGA............Licensed for others

Here is OMEGA Number

GM Maxx Transponder Interface: Malibu MAXX PASSKEY/ PASSLOCK (IB-G7)

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.

Posted By: kaufman_sd
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 12:32 PM

Will this piece also work for the 06 Solstice. I believe the ignition is the same, and it is a PK3+, just not sure about the data interface.

Steve

Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 26, 2005 at 12:47 PM

probably

I believe the solstace/sky are build on the pursuit/ion chassis.

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta