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2001 Toyota Sienna remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=67624
Printed Date: June 01, 2024 at 6:04 PM


Topic: 2001 Toyota Sienna remote start

Posted By: sunsettt
Subject: 2001 Toyota Sienna remote start
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 1:24 PM

Hi, anyone here using TOYDA (Data Interface Module) bypass kit for remote starter? I just bought the TOYDA (TOYOTA DATA) Data Interface Module VR: 1.4 MD1004. After the installation was fine and it doesn't start with out the key in the barrel. When I was programming, it seem to be fine with the instruction. But it doesn't work. I got 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE. This is the only one problem I got, on the remote start was ok. Thanks for every thing.

PS: on the DataInterface Module bypass kit, there is one green wire it said to "NC". I really don't know what that mean so I leave it alone. I had ask my fiends and they said to ground of security system, but where is it in my van? so I leave it alone. It still programed. Thanks




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Posted By: jacqueslacombe
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 2:21 PM

hi! I'have been using that type of module  make sure you do step by step the installation procedure  and programming   and i know you have to cut two wire from the immobilizer  check  the wire to make sure  you put the right wire to the key side  and the right wire to the ecm (electronic control module) side  + dont worrie with the  NC means not connect.

PS.  sometimes the module that you installe may be defect !



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cocolaboy




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 2:35 PM

Hi,

So do you know which two wire from the immobilizer have to be cut out? I also din't see the ECM on my van, but I saw the harness was mount on the ignition key cylender which is same color with the instrustion that they provide for instalation, and then it came to a small box about 2" X 1" X 1", is that the ECM or something else, I saw the Key sense was going to that box so i guess that is the security system

Thanks alots





Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 2:58 PM
Hi, Can anybody please tell me how to find the Key Sense for Toyota Sienna 2001. I'm guessing the one have two wires close to the key when it insert in to the key cylinder right? one for the ground and the other is key sense right? when I unplug that two wires the engine wasn't start, and try to test that 2 pin, there is one ground and the other is key sense i guess. Am I correct or wasn't. Thanks you for your help




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 4:09 PM
Hard to believe, but DEI doesn't list the keysense wire for that van. I know newer ones are blue/black. I remember there being a 2 pin plug near the key cylinder. Just put the key in the ignition and unplug it to see if the door buzzer stops. If it does you narrowed it down and just need to see which wire of the two looses ground when you remove the key.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: jacqueslacombe
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 4:20 PM

Hi!  it could be blue/black or on some orange  I'have check on astroflexdata base

   GOOD LOCK



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cocolaboy




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 5:44 PM

Well, I think this two pin harness is one of the Key Sense, because when I unplug it, the engine will not start. But the problem right now is hard to location the security system of the van. As I did mention above about that little box, (2"X1"X1"), cause I saw those two wire from the key(key sense) going to that box. The reason to find the security system are some data wire go in the the by pass and going out to that security system. I had try everything and still doesn't work posted_image Thanks for all your help!

Sunset





Posted By: slicksam
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 6:12 PM

pin lay out on toyda

green = no connection

blue = geound when running

ORANGE / black = BROWN / red anti=theft side

orange = BROWN / red key side

PURPLE / white = BROWN / white anti-theft side

purple = BROWN / white key side

yellow/black = key sense(there should be 2 wires , the wire that has NO ground on it, that is the right one)

yellow = BROWN / yellow

red = 12volts

black on black(anti-theft)

Programmation:

Press the program button while inserting the harness connector into the TOYDA module. When the

LED turned ON, release the program button and start the engine with a functional key. When the

LED will flash, press again until the LED turned OFF and the TOYDA module will be programmed. Turn

the engine OFF. The module is now functional.

MAKE SURE THE WIRE COLOR MATCH



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Testing is the key




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 04, 2005 at 6:31 PM

Hi Slicksam, Look like you know exacly what my problem. This may the last question for you, Please tell me where is the anti-theft system location? Is it that small box that I had mention about or it location behide the glove box on the passenger side, also I didn't see the black wire of the anti-theft  anywhere for ground so I Just check up with the meter and connect it to, Very thank you for your time.

Sunsett





Posted By: slicksam
Date Posted: December 05, 2005 at 2:18 AM

my notes say "ECM location below glovebox"

check to see if there is a blue/black at the ignition switch, i just noticed my notes that blu/black can be your key sense output.

but I don't think you need to go to the glovebox.....check the ignition switch area, near the barrel....there has to be a key sense there.



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Testing is the key




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 05, 2005 at 10:35 PM

Hi every one!

Finally I got It work! but two thing my wife not happy about are:

1. Went the remote starter start the engine the security system of my Van is go off, keep beepping while it running.

2. When remote starter start the engine my original remote of Toyota  doesn't work at all, unlock, lock and power sliding door.

So, any how I can make those two working in proper way, I know that we have to give out signal to the security system to turn it off some how. Any suggestion would help will be perfect. Thanks all!

 

Sunset





Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: December 05, 2005 at 11:52 PM
use a ground out to the keysense wire. this will prevent the alarm from going off.

there's no way to make the factory remote work when the engine is running.

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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta




Posted By: slicksam
Date Posted: December 06, 2005 at 5:07 AM

blue/white is lock

blue / YELLOW is unlock  and maybe a wire for the child safety lock(diode isolate)

you must have doorlock outputs from the remote starter , use those

testing these wires can only be done by inserting the key in the driver door and turning



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Testing is the key




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 06, 2005 at 3:12 PM
Extreme is accurate, keysense will shut the alarm off before starting and there's no way to cure the second problem...

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 06, 2005 at 5:41 PM

Thanks for all info! But here is the another question I'm just thinking about: If we connect the groud to the key sense to prevent the alarm going off, so that mean the thieft is doing the same way to by pass the security system? Is that simple? I had talking about this problem with my other friends and they thinking about to connect those two wire of the key sense at the harness and the engine will start with out the original key....is that can happen? Thanks for all agian!

sunset





Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 06, 2005 at 6:00 PM
Well....yes. First, you understand we don't mean ground the keysense permanently, right? Just a pulse before start to turn it off. Yes a thief could do that, then hotwire the car.First tho, he would have to find a way into the car without setting it off. He could break glass to do that. Heck, look at Nissan. They don't even require the keysense, they just turn off the factory alarm after the ignition sees power....

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 06, 2005 at 7:37 PM

Well... If we just need to send the ground pulse to keysense to bypassing the system so why we don't take (-) pulse off from the alarm or remote starter ( or we can make it go though the relay)  to bypass it, instead of spending more $50 dollars to by the bypass the security system Mike? or is it the way they making money with? Thanks for sharing....good stuff!

Sunset





Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 09, 2005 at 5:06 PM

Hi every one!

Sorry to bugging everyone again!. I came here with another problem and I hope some one can help me again, I would like to speacial thanks for all of suggestion. About the remote starter, when I using the remote start to lock the door and arm the security system, which wire do I have tight in to let the security turn on as well ( which wires and where it locate?) cause right now I just tight up with the door motor from the passenger side ( because it need only one pulse to unlock all door) so when we close the door and press an lock on remote starter it will lock but it not arm the security on. It only arm the system when we press the lock button first and then close the door.

Thanks all,

Sunset





Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 09, 2005 at 5:22 PM
Ok, the pulse form your remote start won't work. The keysense needs to see a ground the entire time it is remote started, not just a pulse before it. I'm not familiar with that Toyda bypass, but it should be for bypassing the imobilizer key. You should have a fat toyaota key with a plastic head that's black. If you have any keys that start your van that are all metal, you don't need a bypass. The keysense hookup is for your factory alarm, which is not the same as the imobilizer key. As for the factory alarm not arming, you need to add a pulse to the blue/white in the passeengers kickpanel. It will also lock the doors.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 09, 2005 at 8:00 PM

Thanks you very much for fast reply, This's a greatest forum in my opinion!  So, if I going to add a (-) pulse to the horn to horn it when it lock so do I need a relay to do that or it will be ok when using (-) pulse for both. Thanks again your usefull input Mike.

Sunsettt





Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 09, 2005 at 9:00 PM
You don't need a relay for horn honk if you get it at the steering column, GREEN/ black wire.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 10, 2005 at 11:07 AM

Thanks alots Mike! I'll rework on it today.

Sunsettt





Posted By: sunsettt
Date Posted: December 11, 2005 at 8:46 PM

Hi, When I am tight up the honk with the (-) lock off the remote starter, the pulse seem to be too long ( about a second) so any how to reduce the pulse to the honk abit shorter. Thanks for helping me agian!

Sunsettt






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