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2001 Dakota, negative trigger not working

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=68241
Printed Date: May 14, 2024 at 3:36 AM


Topic: 2001 Dakota, negative trigger not working

Posted By: kkjkearney
Subject: 2001 Dakota, negative trigger not working
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 7:54 PM

I'm installing a remote starter with keyless entry in a 2001 Dakota. I've identified the OEM alarm disarm (GREEN/ orange stripe at the CTM, pin 14 on 16 pin connector). According to what I've read, a negative trigger through 644 & 1565 ohm resistors will arm/disarm, respecively. I've tapped into the wire, I did not cut it.

It doesn't work for me when I simply touch the wire to ground. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for your help.

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k. kearney



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Posted By: 05gt
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 8:15 PM

you won't be able to trigger anything with just the ground, you need the resistors it is calling for and then it will work through the alarm





Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 8:23 PM
I'm touching the wire to ground through the proper resistor, I'm not going directly to ground. Should this arm/disarm the alarm or does the "ground trigger" have to be more controlled?

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k. kearney




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 8:35 PM

kkjkearney wrote:

I'm touching the wire to ground through the proper resistor, I'm not going directly to ground. Should this arm/disarm the alarm or does the "ground trigger" have to be more controlled?

Usually 250 - 500ma  will do it thru the correct resistor, but some vehicles require a stronger GROUND which you should use a Relay.

How are you testing the ARM / DIS-arm??  



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 8:44 PM
I've tapped into the OEM alarm disarm wire (call the tap wire "wire 1". Within wire 1 I have a 644 ohm resistor. I touch the end of "wire 1" to ground briefly. This should arm my OEM alarm. Am I missing something? Should this work?

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k. kearney




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 9:02 PM
Ground Pulse thru a 644 ohm Resistor should ARM the Factory Alarm, as long as the Ignition is OFF, Doors are Closed, & Dome lights are off.
That is if the Vehicle has FACTORY Alarm

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 12, 2005 at 9:50 PM
No luck. How can I confirm I have an OEM alarm? My remote is a D-Chrysler remote.


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k. kearney




Posted By: secureauto
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 1:57 AM
Roll down driver side window, close all doors, lock using OEM remote, wait approx. 1 minute, open door from inside. If the factory alarm sounds, then you know it has it posted_image You can also try locking it from the outside with the key.

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Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 6:20 AM
I've done all that. My truck is a 4WD, 4DR Dakota SPORT. Someone on a private post thougth that mattered and the wiring might be different.

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k. kearney




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 7:41 AM
Have the Dealer / Service Dept. run a Build Sheet............Give them V.I.N. , shouldn't cost anything, unless you want printout, but who knows

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 11:58 AM
Got a build sheet (Free!) but it doesn't say much. They call it code "GXR" keyless entry.

By the way, I was able to actuate the door locks using the proper resistors and touching my leadwire to ground.

Any other ideas?

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k. kearney




Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 12:32 PM
Did you do the alarm test posted a couple responses up? When you opened the door did the horn start beeping? If not, you don't have the alarm.




Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 13, 2005 at 2:00 PM
What a piece of crap, I don't have an alarm!

My horn sounds when I hit the panic button, but that's it.

So, I had no effect on that wire, cause it goes nowhere...

Unless you guys have any other input, I'll just quietly end this post and pretend I knew what I was doing all along.

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k. kearney




Posted By: kkjkearney
Date Posted: December 14, 2005 at 7:43 AM
Mission acconplished. Thanks for all of your help.

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k. kearney





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