2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Remote Start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 4:06 AM
Topic: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Remote Start
Posted By: tbone587
Subject: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Remote Start
Date Posted: December 17, 2005 at 12:47 AM
I will be installing a Valet 561r in my moms 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am just hooking up the remote start, nothing else. I searched the forum, but havent really found an exact diagram for what I need. I understand that the car has two starter wires, and the second starter wire is actually the accessory as well. I dont know if I need relays or what. Im very confused on this car. I also dont understand the deal with the parking lights. Do I just not hook them up, or is there another source to do. In another thread, someone mentioned something about hooking up to the hazards for the park light wire. Please help, I appreciate it a lot
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Posted By: stroked383z28
Date Posted: December 17, 2005 at 1:16 AM
The second starter/accessory wire is PURPLE / brown and is in the ignition harness. The second starter is a negative trigger through a 150 ohm resistor and the accessory is negative trigger through a 560 ohm resistor. Here's how you have to wire it up: https://www.directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/directed_techtips/1084.pdf The hazards are WHITE/ dark blue negative trigger in the steering column module which is in the steering column. You'll also need a 556UW or a 556CW bypass module.
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 17, 2005 at 9:30 AM
Ok, can I connect the positive parking light output from the remote start to the negative hazards? Will that work, I mean i guess u dont really have to hook up park lights, but I like to have some sort of lights blinking while the car is started
Posted By: autotech mobile
Date Posted: December 17, 2005 at 10:01 PM
There is a jumper on the side of the Valet that changes the polarity of the light output.
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 18, 2005 at 12:00 AM
so to answer my question, I can hook the park lights to the hazards?
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 18, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Hmm I got this diagram from a friend. Its diagram still uses two relays, but doesnt need 12v sent to them, and uses diodes, as well as the diagram being totally different then the one u gave me. Will both work? If so, it seems as though I should use the wiremagic one because u dont need power. https://mywebpages.comcast.net/tristansmith587/3057.pdf
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 18, 2005 at 10:45 PM
dang, nobody can check out that pdf i posted to see why that one is different then the one stroked383z28 provided. I just want to know if it is accurate..
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 20, 2005 at 10:34 PM
Common, can someone help me. I want to get this info straight. My post keeps getting moved further and further back
Posted By: Hornshockey
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 2:46 AM
The wire magic diagram will work if your RS unit does not have negative outputs for start and acc. Your Valet unit has those outputs. As far at the wiring goes, both diagrams provide a ground though resistors and a disconnect between the keyswitch and the BCM while the RS is active. Long story short: you can use either. Just be sure your resistors are very close to the listed values; I think you usually have 1% or 2% to play with.
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Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 7:00 AM
On your other question, yes use the parking lights. Be sure to polarize negative...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 10:51 AM
Where is the parklight? What do you mean polarize negative. Also hornshockey, how do i know if the remote start has neg start and acc? Do all dei units have that. If I use the wiremagic diagram I will need diodes, which I dont have..
Posted By: isus
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 11:26 AM
I just did one of these last week. Don't hook up the accessory wire. Just the ignition wire, 12volt and starters. When I hooked up the accessory wire the hvac controls would not work. When I unplugged the relay everything worked fine.
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 11:28 AM
Where did u gedt the parklight? What do u mean dont hook up the accessory
Posted By: isus
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 11:32 AM
there is no parking light on this one. it is data bus controlled. you can't hook it up (per direct techs). Just don't hook up the accessory wire. Don't bother with it. Some cars don't require it. This is one of them. Trust me you will receive a big head ache if you bother with it.
Posted By: isus
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 11:32 AM
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 11:48 AM
so when u did the 2005 jeep cherokee u just hooked up the ignition, starter, and 12 volt wires? You didnt use any relays or resistors like I was told from two other diagrams? I find that hard to believe, considering there are two starter wires in the car
Posted By: isus
Date Posted: December 21, 2005 at 2:13 PM
I guess I will quote myself here. "Just the ignition wire, 12volt and starters" Yes hook up the starter wires and the ignition wires like your diagram shows you. just don't hook up the accessory wire (i.e. don't cut it and put a relay in, just hook up the the rest.)
Posted By: autotech mobile
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 11:22 PM
I have done plenty of the 05 Grand Cherokee's for dealerships but I hooked up the acc. and everthing worked fine. What "head aches" did you come across by using the acc.? From what you are saying that once the RS is activated the acc. worked without tagging it with the RS. This would have to be the case otherwise the vehicle would trigger an error code.
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 2:38 PM
I finally got a chance to work on my moms car today cause im off work. I cant find the damn PURPLE / brown wire. .. I dont see it with the rest of the ignition. These are so hard to get to. Does anyone know of another place to grab these wires that are more accessible?
Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: January 16, 2006 at 6:57 PM
the wire is right off the ignition, if ur drop the lower dash and look up at the ignition u'll see it. its in the same loom along with the ignition and starter wire
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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: January 16, 2006 at 10:21 PM
If you unplug the ignition switch, you can stretch out the wires enough to work with them.
There's a piece of metal right near there, though---put a piece of duct tape on it so you don't blow the fuse while you're working.
On the plug at the ignition switch, you'll see a small red plastic part..... you must slide that aside before you can undo the plug.
Posted By: northern
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 12:55 PM
So what is the consensus on this vehicle? Do you need to hook up the accessory wire or can you get away with just the 12volt, starter and ign wires?
Posted By: northern
Date Posted: January 29, 2006 at 4:18 PM
Also does the CHDL7-PK2 Seem to be the best combo bypasskit for this vehicle?
Posted By: tbone587
Date Posted: January 29, 2006 at 9:21 PM
The consensus is that I hooked it up via this diagram https://www.directechs.com/techtips/pdfs/resources/security/directed_techtips/1084.pdf And it works perfectly... I used the dei 556cw bypass module for the car. Didnt have any problems getting it to work.
Posted By: meltingplastic
Date Posted: January 29, 2006 at 11:27 PM
I used the chdl-pk2 on the one i did and i havent had it come back for problems. i highly suggest that module it makes the install a sinch
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Driving a Bagged, Caddied 02 s10
Posted By: s_p_n_k_r_07
Date Posted: February 19, 2006 at 1:02 AM
I just did one of these the other day, the directechs info for the relays worked perfect for me, as far as the hazard light thing goes, they flash because your triggering the hazards. Not a huge hit with the customer. so she just leaves the auto lamps on..............(i lucked out with her going to work before the suns up) i'm still debating on going out to a parking light bulb. I also used a 556c and the only issue i ran into was programming it, using the wait to start input to delay crank it caused the check engine light to come on. But disconnecting the neg battery terminal fixed it. The other idea i had but didn't have time to explore was cutting the shroud behind the cluster to access the ignition wires where they meet the big fat harness behind it, i dunno if it works i did it the hard way. hope at least some of this helps
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