2003 caravan, remote start

I am working on a 03 caravan for a remote start. I've installed an avital 4000, and there is no imobilizer in the car. There are 2 seperate relays that I have wired up, one for the parking lights, the other for the second starter. I used the direct techs documents for the relay wiring. The car remote starts and starts with the key, but I have no radio, AC, wipers, nor power windows. If I remove the second starter relay, everything comes online, but of course the car will not remote start. There is no accessory wire listed for the car and the tech sheet states that no accessory is needed for remote start. The wiring for the starter relay is as follows:
30 second starter wire
86 12 volt
85 starter wire
87 ground through 180ohm resistor (have tried 177 and 183)
87a no connection

Does anyone know if the sheets are wrong, or if I need to find an accessory, or if anyone else has encountered this problem? The customer will be back tomorrow afternoon for the trouble shoot.

Matt
First Class MECP Best Buy

Looks like you have pins 86 & 87 mixed up.  Why are you using a resistor for your ground?

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Keith

there isn't 2 starter wires on this van but a wire that has to be energized upon remote start. Use a relay. 86 goes to yellow starter wire in van, 87 goes to a 180 - 210ohm resistor that gets wired to the violet/brown wire on ignition harness, 85 goes to an output on your remote start that supplies a ground upon remote starting and lifts the ground after remote starter has shut down, 30 goes to ground. this should energize your starter and cause the accessories to turn on as well, provided you have the correct ignition wire which should be a pink/white wire at ignition harness.

Thats how those vans are you can power up an acc if want to turn that stuff on but it will not nhurt the van for it to be that way. I personaly dont like the wipers to work with the rs because if you leave them on and they freeze up you could burn up the wiper motor.

No chris, thats the way the previous style was. Put the resistor in line with the wire that goes to the second starter wire and its all good (PURPLE / brown)

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thanks to all who responded, I'll let you know how it turns out tomorrow afternoon.

higgs

I usually wire it up 85 Ground When Running, 86 starter wire from remote starter, 87 gtound, 30 to 2nd starter wire with 180 ohms inline. But you can also wire it 87 to ground with a 180 ohm resistor and 30 going to your 2nd start.

messiah9966, you should send me your addy, I'll send you a holiday card. Worked like a charm, thanks!!!