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I have a 2000 Pontiac Grand AM SE without keyless entry. I want to install a remote start in it. Do I need a passlock or anything like that? If so, what model? Any suggestions on brands of remote start with keyless entry?

you'll need a Passlock II bypass.... use a GMBP or 556L or PLJX

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

I am having problems installing the passlock bypass. I go the crimestopper brand one. It says to connect the wire to the black wire in the ignition harness. The only black wire is really tiny. Is that correct?

acutally it said black or ORANGE / black wire. I didnt see and ORANGE / black wire only a little black one.

Off the ignition cylinder you will find a taped harness with a white, black and yellow wire in it. It is separate from the ignition switch plugs/harnesses. The Passlock II signal wire is the yellow and the Passlock II ground reference wire is the black wire. You can get to them either through the radio hole or by removing the instrument cluster.

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sparky

sparkie wrote:

Off the ignition cylinder you will find a taped harness with a white, black and yellow wire in it. It is separate from the ignition switch plugs/harnesses. The Passlock II signal wire is the yellow and the Passlock II ground reference wire is the black wire. You can get to them either through the radio hole or by removing the instrument cluster.

So the passlock wires are not in the same bunch of wires that the starter, accessory, 12volt constant wire are in? Where exactly are the passlock wires located? left or right of the wires I am talking about?

If you unplug the white and black plug out of the ignition switch you will notice the only other harness coming off the ignition switch. There is no plug to release it from the ignition cylinder. It usually is covered in fabric black tape. The only other thing that comes off the switch is the cable that connects it to the shifter. Use a light and you will find the Passlock harness. There is enough slack to allow you to splice in your wires. Just don't use a lot of force as you could rip the wires out of the ignition switch.

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sparky

I have a 2000 pontiac grand am and I was doing an passlock 2 bypass. I hooked everything up and tried to start the car and nothing. So then i removed the bypass to get back to normal and nothing. Lights on the dash were flickering, the speedometer was moving up and down and I could hear a clicking in the engine when i turned on the lights (no lights came on). I thought it was a battery issue so i bought a new battery and my car started. Then 2 hours later I came back and tried to start the car and it wouldnt start. Same thing as before. I have the battery on the charger now. Any ideas?

Dirty battery cables???

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Mike M2 wrote:

Dirty battery cables???

Battery cables are good and clean

which remote start did you hook up...check your starter wires. make sure that you have them hooked up in the right direction and that you have a good connection....check you remote wires....even if the bypass was bad, the car should still try to start. if it does not...you have a wiring issue, not a dead battery....start at the ignition harness from the key cylinder, make sure all your signals are good from there...work your way to the brain. i had the same issue once, bad connection on the starter wire...took me 2 hours to find out that i had a bad connection.

hope this helps.

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dxdmi

kimberley wrote:

which remote start did you hook up...check your starter wires. make sure that you have them hooked up in the right direction and that you have a good connection....check you remote wires....even if the bypass was bad, the car should still try to start. if it does not...you have a wiring issue, not a dead battery....start at the ignition harness from the key cylinder, make sure all your signals are good from there...work your way to the brain. i had the same issue once, bad connection on the starter wire...took me 2 hours to find out that i had a bad connection.

hope this helps.

Its an ultrastart remote starter, but i never installed it yet, only the bypass and then i removed it. I cut the starter wire and soldered it back together. The wire is tight so i just soldered it and not twisted the wires together. Could that be a problem? Why is it draining my battery?

Are you sure the battery is going dead? Is the new battery taking some good amps on the charger?

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Bob O.

03sd] wrote:

Are you sure the battery is going dead? Is the new battery taking some good amps on the charger?

when i test the 12volt red constant wire in the ignition harness i get a reading of ~7.00 on my voltmeter. When i put the charger on the new batter the reading on that wire will read ~13.5. Im charging my battery as we speak. its half way charged.

So after just 2 hours with a new battery it was dead? Yikes - must be a big draw somewhere. Do you have a low amp clamp and a DMM? That is the best way to monitor current draw, being that it is non-intrusive. You didn't leave something on??

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Bob O.

03sd] wrote:

So after just 2 hours with a new battery it was dead? Yikes - must be a big draw somewhere. Do you have a low amp clamp and a DMM? That is the best way to monitor current draw, being that it is non-intrusive. You didn't leave something on??

I have a DMM but not a low amp clamp. I didn't leave anything on. I don't think its the battery. Where would the draw be. Any way to reset the computer?

Would a bad alternator do this? I was having problems starting the car on the first try all last week.

I noticed that the red battery bolt is warm after being connected. Almost seems like there is a draw. When i turn on the lights or try to start the car there is a click from the box(maybe computer) above the passenger kick panel. Any thoughts on what could be shorting out or how to reset the system?

Just installed a remote start in a 2001 pontiac

the typical passlock 2 bypass is too sensitive

for that car what will work is a peripheral ppl-data bypass

JAMZCUSTOMZ

aftermarket solutions n.w. Spokane Wa.

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JAMZCUSTOMZ

jamz]< wrote:

>Just installed a remote start in a 2001 pontiac
the typical passlock 2 bypass is too sensitive
for that car what will work is a peripheral ppl-data bypass
JAMZCUSTOMZ
I have been using PLXR for many years on those cars without probs.
aftermarket solutions n.w. Spokane Wa.

I had to take my car in. It was a corroded battery cable and the block. Problem is fixed.

I am installing the Ultra Start 12xx remote starter. It inclued an auxiliary bypass connector which has 3 wires. one for ground while running(-) another for Ground(-) and the other is 12volts(+). Do i need to hook these up? What are they for?

I am also installing the crimestopper passlock 2 module. Where do the 2 wires below connect to: Yellow wire (IGN Input - ground when running) and the white wire (Additional IGN Output for 2nd ignition wire at column.-must see IGN pwr)? I don't know what wire i have to connect to the remote starter.

Thanks

I have a 00 grand am. I have the ultra start 1250. I am installing it tonight. I have an second accessory wire(brown) on my car, but the remote starter or passlock2 doesn't have a second accessory wire. What should I do?

Not familiar with the car or the alarm system, but a generic solution would be to use an extra relay to switch the second accessory wire. Power the relay by the one accessory output of the alarm, which also powers the car's first accessory wire, use the output of the relay to power the second wire of the car.

ripley01 wrote:

Not familiar with the car or the alarm system, but a generic solution would be to use an extra relay to switch the second accessory wire. Power the relay by the one accessory output of the alarm, which also powers the car's first accessory wire, use the output of the relay to power the second wire of the car.

Could i just connect the 1 accessory wire on the remote start to the 2 accessorie wires of the car?

chaos6401 wrote:

I am installing the Ultra Start 12xx remote starter. It inclued an auxiliary bypass connector which has 3 wires. one for ground while running(-) another for Ground(-) and the other is 12volts(+). Do i need to hook these up? What are they for?

I am also installing the crimestopper passlock 2 module. Where do the 2 wires below connect to: Yellow wire (IGN Input - ground when running) and the white wire (Additional IGN Output for 2nd ignition wire at column.-must see IGN pwr)? I don't know what wire i have to connect to the remote starter.

Thanks

Any thoughts on this? I have an orange wire called anti-grind/starter kill output. Can i hook my passlock bypass up to here? Here is my install guide Link to Manual for Ultra Start

no.. this is grounded all the time when you hit the lock button, not just during RS... use the GWR or status output....

Brown Acc is not needed on this car and never just hook up one wire to two... always isolate them with a relay....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

kgerry wrote:

no.. this is grounded all the time when you hit the lock button, not just during RS... use the GWR or status output....

Brown Acc is not needed on this car and never just hook up one wire to two... always isolate them with a relay....

Thanks, I will hook the bypass wire to the GWR. Do I need to use teh Black Ground and Red 12volts wire in teh 3 pin connector of the auxilarary bypass?

kgerry wrote:

no.. this is grounded all the time when you hit the lock button, not just during RS... use the GWR or status output....

Brown Acc is not needed on this car and never just hook up one wire to two... always isolate them with a relay....

also, Do I need to hook up the starter kill & Anti_Grind Output? if so, to what?

yes to power and ground, no to GWA ( ground while armed ) this is an optional - output in case you WISH to hook up a starter kill/anti-grind relay.... it is not needed for basic RS....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

Thanks for all the help. I got the remote starter installed and it works great.

Does anybody know if it is possible to hook this unit up to my rear window defrost? If so, what would I need to do? This would be nice in winter. my rear window defrost button goes on for a set amount of time and then shuts off.