Hi All,
Looking for help on defeating the Honda transponder start disable on a '98 Accord DX. Put a Bulldog remote start in the car but of course the car uses the factory key transponder to keep it from starting. System works ok with the key in the ignition so I know the whole remote system works fine. What I want to do is completely disable this system. NOT concerned about theft (if they want this winter beater they can have it). I have no interest in buying a $60 key from the dealer... I just want to disable the whole system not start buying more parts and or keys. Is it do-able? I only have one key now so putting my spare under the dash with a relay and wire coil isn't going to cut it.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
You could DISECT the chip out of the key and hot glue it to the immobilizer sensor so it reads it ALL THE TIME.
This, I believe is a "ghetto" way of doing things, but if you are not willing to spend the money to do it the right way I guess this could be an option for you.
What you could do is get a key made that doesn't have the chip. Try your hardware store and see if they have one that has just a metal head for a 96 Accord(which didn't have the immobilizer). Use that to drive the car. Take your other key and jamb it up into the steering column next to the key cylinder, duct tape it in place. No reason why it shouldn't work....
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
ditto that bobk... there are many "no key required" modules made for this vehicle.....you may find you spend hundreds later to save 10 bucks today... buy the bypass module and do it easily and properly.... disregard the ghetto advice you just received and buy the proper module
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
"getto" or not, it's doable. Which is what he asked.....
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
I would never "disect" the chip out of the key but the option of of taping the key in there is certainly doable. One thing to remember when doing this, you will not be able to use any other "chipped" key because the car will be reading two keys.
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Keith
Opinions are like bellybuttons.....
He didn't ask whether it was proper or not, nor did he ask for opinions. He asked if it was doable. Would it be "getto"? Yup. Would it work? Yup.
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Thanks for all the replies and options. This was exactly what I was looking for... some options. Yes, there is a keyless by-pass available for $35 (which I picked up last night by the way). Seemed like the easiest way to go... short of cutting the head off of a key and stashing it by the antenna ring near the locking cylinder.... but since I don't have any spare keys (and a programmed key from Honda is more $$ than the by-pass module) I decided to go with the module.
Can I ask one more question now? The module needs to be cut into the wiring to the ECM. Can anyone tell me where I find the Ground, Synchro, Data wires in the Accord? When I pulled the column covers last, the module at the cylinder itself only has two wires. I think they may be blue and red (I would have to check again) so those may be the Sync and Data pair but the ground? Is it an isolated ground to the ECM or is it just a generic (-) chassis ground that I can pick up anywhere? If that is the case then this is dead simple...
In my previous post I was hoping that this unit was completely defeatable by cutting the signal wire to the ECM and just soldering in a given resistance value or something like that... but I guess that is not the case. Too bad. I have to laugh at stuff like this which manufacturers install as "theft deterrance". What a farce, nobody steals a car with a key. If they want your car it is GONE in 60 seconds regardless of what "security" is on it. A tilt bed tow truck can steal a whole car in seconds and nobody gives it a second glance! Heck, they will take it from your driveway and your neighbour will help them and not know it! LOL... they pop a fake magnetic sign on the side of the tow truck saying AAA and nobody gives it a second glance.
Thanks everyone... this site is quite the resource...
Markus