Two way alarm - direct plug?
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=70005
Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 5:55 AM
Topic: Two way alarm - direct plug?
Posted By: jonchos
Subject: Two way alarm - direct plug?
Date Posted: January 04, 2006 at 2:24 AM
I have a matrix 1 alarm in my car. I would like to upgrade it for a two way system, sometimes I can't hear my alarm in my apparment complex. Is there a way I can just buy an alarm that would plug in the existing wiring pin from the matrix 1? I also have a viper 516R or 516T (I can remeber correctly) connected to the "validity" wire from the alarm so I would not need a brain with rs capabilities. I am just to plain lazy to re-wire everything, hahahaha. Please help.
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Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 1:26 AM
Anyone? Maybe I should get the two way alarm(like a clifford) and then just cut the pin out of my old alarm and then cu tthe wires short on the new alarm pin and the just solder them together and then change the antenna. would this work?
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Has someone ever had a client had this idea or problem? has someone ver tryed doing an alarm upgrade and kept all the existing wiring? Someone?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 12:01 PM
yes as an ESP2 model it is Responder ready..... you need to simply buy the Responder upgrade kit and replace the antenna and remote.....
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 2:16 PM
So what I understand is that I need to buy the responder and antenna for my Clifford matrix 1 and plug the antenna and it's done? no need to buy other brain for it? What is ESP2 model? where could I buy the rersponder and antenna? is there a model number for it?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 2:42 PM
upgrade kit part # is 544K although i dont know if it's still available... it was only about 30 bucks less than buying the whole 2 way unit......
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 4:16 PM
Is there a place online I can buy it?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 4:17 PM
probably, but none that i would recommend......
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 4:21 PM
I really need this part, My car is parked out of my sight in my appartment complex and I feel unsecure knowing if the alrm is going off or not. Peace of mind is what I need. Can anyone help me find it?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 4:57 PM
have you actually tried a local DEI dealer???
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 5:00 PM
They want almost $200 for the antenna cable and remote I can buy the alarm with an antenna cbale and remote on ebay for $140 Maybe I can get i cheaper, that is why I am asking
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 7:21 PM
jonchos wrote:
They want almost $200 for the antenna cable and remote
I can buy the alarm with an antenna cbale and remote on ebay for $140
Maybe I can get i cheaper, that is why I am asking
Then buy it for $140. Don't complain if the remote stops working within a year and you have to buy a new one because you have no warranty.
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 7:31 PM
Well I just got back from my local alarm and stereo shops to try to get a quote on how much will it cost me to add the two way system on my existing alarm and this is the results I got: FIRST SHOP: (well recognize bationwide store) The "manager" explained to me that they charge $35 to "look" at my car and see what do I need to add the two way system. I told him that I needed just the antenna, antenna cable and LCD remote from a vyper, clifford or python alarm(since they are compatible with my Clifford matrix 1 alarm) and he said "well.....your alarm might have the antenna already and you just need the remote only, that way it will only cost you $70 for the remote, but if your system is not antenna ready, we will need to add that up and it will cost you $190 for everything, but again I will have to look at it and then give you a quote" My reaction to that was ARE YOU FAKIN CRAZY? They want to chargeme to "look" at my car and tell me what do I need? I am so angry at them right now. Also, he said my alarm might have the antenna for the two way system already, which made me doubt, my alarm came with a XHF antenna which looks like a little square with a thin antenna and then a triange/cone shape at the end with a tag that says "OK/3C" can this antenna be ready for the two way? or do I need another one? SECOND STORE: (also well recognized nation wide) SOrry but we do not carry any DEI products. THIRD STORE: We are currently out of stock of the remotes, maybe check with us next week and I might have them then. I told him if he can look at my car just to see if my antenna would work or I needed another one, to what he answered. "like I said, come back next week and we will see" So I got no help from him. FOURTH STORE: I explained my situation and needs, ad he just said. We don't have anything like that in stock, you need to contact DEI directly and have them seel it to you. I know that DEI would not sell it to me since the only sell their products to authorized dealers. So as you can see I am so upset and confused right now. How can I tell if my alarm antenna is going to work with the two way control remote? is there somthing in particular I need to look at? Please help a The12volt frustrated member.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 7:54 PM
You need an antenna cable that looks like this:
Antenna
Your antenna cable needs to have 4 wires in it for it to work with a 2-way. If it is a 1-way antenna cable it will only have 3 wires.
Remote
Try searching google and eBay for "DEI 479V" or "DEI 479P" or "DEI 479C"
eBay auction
Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: January 05, 2006 at 8:24 PM
Is there someone here that would like to seel me a DEI two way antenna and the cable for it? Local shops are not very helpful maybe a clifford two way LCD remote too? model number 479C Ok I have been contacted by a seller that wants $75 for the antenna and cable shipped to my house and if I get the remote aswell he wants $158, does this sound reasonable? or should I just keep looking? Also, is this really going to work? I would really hate to buy everything and then find out my alarm does not work with it. My alarm is a Clifford Matrix 1 and I am trying to change it to a 2-way system by adding a 2-way antenna from clifford matrix rsx3.5 and the antenna cable from the same alarm and a new 479X lcd Clifford remote from the rsx3.5.
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