’01 Caravan remote start acc issue

I had an Autopage RS-615 remote starter "professionally" installed in my 2001 Caravan but my installer can't figure out how to have the heat / AC come on when remote started.  He quoted a tech sheet that states, "Accessory is not required for remote start".  There must be another way to connect and he is out of ideas.

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robbedee

He needs to put the proper resistance onto the PURPLE / brown at the key.... this will tell the IPC when to turn on the accessories, drop them during crank, and bring them back up again after crank. 180 ohms, negative, during crank only.

Gus


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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......

Thanks for the prompt response. I'll pass this along and hope he figures it out.

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robbedee

No luck, that was already done.  I was with him today and he showed me the hook up and we double checked the ohms on the wire that goes from pin 87 to PURPLE / brown, (180.3), and it appears he has everything else hooked up according to the tech sheet.  I just found a similar post from 12/21/05 where thepencil recommended to hook up the green wire from the main RS harness to pin 86, this is after it has been set to the second starter wire with the correct jumper pin on the back of the RS unit.  This was for a prostart ct3300 unit,.  Does anyone know if the Autopage unit has or needs the same thing, or if there is anything else we should look for?

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robbedee

HI!  Well if the ign is hook up right   You should get the heater and AC on  if the system is on   The 180 resistor is  used in the start procedure....

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cocolaboy

I agree, he's gotta have something wrong. He should have 30 to ground, 87 to the PURPLE / brown thru a 180 resistor, and 86/85 switching during crank.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

If your installer hooked up the relay correctly, terminal 86 should go to the starter wire and to the yellow starter wire in the ignition harness. Terminal 85 should go to the remote starter's ground out when running. The ground out when running wire is probably also hooked to the Sentry Key interface to activate it. You must diode islolate the ground out when running to these two different circuits to prevent feedback and problems. Check that he has done this. Terminals 30 and 87 are as Mike M2 described. Another important feature is to not use the battery wire in the ignition harness as this can't properly provide enough current to run your whole remote starter. It is recommended to run a line out to the battery and install an inline fuse close to it. You may also want him to confirm that your van does activate the PURPLE / brown wire only during start when using the KEY. Some vans actually do not require this feature and can cause problems if its hooked up believe it or not. I had one on a 2005 which didn't work until the second starter relay was disconnected. I believe it may have something to do with a dealer service update but I'm not sure of this.

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sparky

term. 86 goes to constant
not to the starter wire you got a bunk installer

Sparky is right, the relay gets activated by the starter wire, 86 goes to the positive yellow starter wire unless the Autopage has a ground out during crank....

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Thanks Mike.

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sparky

The relay is activated by the crank wire... ok. Not a problem. Now... the million dollar question.   Did he diode isolate the ground when running's? There will be a slight trickle current passing through the bypass, and off of the start wire. When conbined, it will be enough to pull in the relay. Use a diode on the ground when running on both the bypass and the negative starter.... bands towards the brain.

Sounds like the negative start is coming on as it is running, which will cause the IPC to kill off the accessories. (the IPC is the computer attatched to the fusebox under the hood, BTW)

Gus


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Wherever I go, that is where I end up......

follow this and it will work,I have tried with die and did not work with my T&C


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simonmai

You all make this a great forum and I appreciate the support.  Unfortunatly my installer isn't interested in listening to advice from a non- installer like myself.  He's supposed to have some freind who would know but he can't get a hold,......blah, blah, blah.  They have until Tuesday to figure it out on their own or they are going to refund me or reimburse me for having someone who knows hook it up properly.

Thanks again for all of the info.

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robbedee

what kind of shop did you take it to that can't do a caravan?  We are authorized Autopage dealers and would have had that 615 in there in about 1-1.5 hours. 

The rs-615 units that we had for this winter all had range issues.  We temporarily stopped installing them until the rs-620 came out.  (3-4 weeks or so ago)

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South Side Audio
2501 S. High St
Columbus, OH 43207

When I first started shopping for a RS installer in the South Metro of Minneapolis I got one hit on my google search.  I could have went to Best Buy, but I thought I'd give the local small shop some business.  I can understand not ever doing a car like this, but what frustrates me is this guys lack of effort to get the info he would need to get it right.  I mentioned this forum and even tech support from Autopage.....I thinfk he's given up.  I don't want to mention the business name because I would think they normally do a good job.  I haven't noticed a range issue; not cold enough here to use the RS yet.

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robbedee

It has been 9 days since your original post. If it is not working yet or he hasn't gotten the correct info, I would bail and find a different shop.  Those Caravans are one of the easiest vehicles to do.

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South Side Audio
2501 S. High St
Columbus, OH 43207