car wont start with key, but with r/s
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Topic: car wont start with key, but with r/s
Posted By: playtilithrtz
Subject: car wont start with key, but with r/s
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 8:57 PM
Car: 04 Hyundai Tiburon GT Alarm: Viper 791xv w/ remote start Symptom: Car will only turn on with remote start, but not with the key. Explination: I installed this alarm and i followed the guide lines correctly (i suppose). I have installed this alarm on my car and someone elses car with no problems ( same type of car and same remote start/alarm). I did the installation on a manual and i bypassed the clutch with no problems. the car turns on fine when i hit the "8" key 2x and it starts right up. But when you go insert the key it wont crank. the dash lights and the headlights turn on but no starter click or anything. I think i hear the fuel pump turn on but am not completly sure. I checked the only fuses that could be for ignition and they are okay. The ignition harness is plugged in. ( the car turn on before after the install, and after i bypassed the clutch, but i know i did a few other connection and then left it alone till about 6 hours later.) Now the only thing that boggles my mind is this. the one ribbon cable that goes to the brain to the remote start relay box that cable was cut. (alarm was preinstalled by installers) the one yellow wire was connected to the ACC line for some reason off the ignition harness. why did they do this? so what ever i cut the wires and soldered and reattched all the cable so that i can connect both end to each unit. but car turned on, but i dont know if it turned on with the key. i dont remember trying. can anyone give me some information on what may be the problem? i tried to connect that yellow wire back to its original location, but that did nothing. thank you inadvance. matt.
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Posted By: stang351w
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 9:01 PM
sounds kinda like the starter kill relay isn't wired properly. that's where i'd start.
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Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 9:54 PM
stang351w wrote:
sounds kinda like the starter kill relay isn't wired properly. that's where i'd start.
okay now this sounds dumb, but where is that? is it that module with those thick wires that connect to the ignition harness?
Posted By: silvercivicsir
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 12:30 AM
flip around the heavy guage green wire and purple.. sounds like you have them backwards.
Posted By: dstang24
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 3:27 AM
silvercivicsir wrote:
flip around the heavy guage green wire and purple.. sounds like you have them backwards.
agreed...
Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 2:48 PM
okay i will try that and ill see what happens.
Posted By: Hornshockey
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 6:04 PM
that's not gonna be your problem if it starts properly with the RS.
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Posted By: cntrylvr79
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 6:42 PM
Try disconnecting the ribbon harness from the brain of the alarm. If it starts now check the orange wire from the 12pin harness make sure it's not connected to anything or shorting out.
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Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 7:31 PM
cntrylvr79 wrote:
Try disconnecting the ribbon harness from the brain of the alarm. If it starts now check the orange wire from the 12pin harness make sure it's not connected to anything or shorting out.
okay.... i will have to take a look at that.... i thought that the previos post with the purple and green wire didnt make sence, realized that afterwards.
Posted By: ryguy
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 7:43 PM
un arm the car ??
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Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 8:33 PM
ryguy] wrote:
n arm the car ??
i've done that already thanx
Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 8:34 PM
ryguy] wrote:
n arm the car ??
ive done that already thanx
Posted By: kickerbill
Date Posted: January 12, 2006 at 8:20 PM
just had this problem with same remote starter hook up all the wires right and unlock the doors on the remote see if statis light is blinking
Posted By: kohara73
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 7:58 AM
Is your bypass powered all the time? The car may be be reading the bypass and the key you are trying to start it with if your bypass is not active only during RS.
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Keith
Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 10:58 AM
bypass? is that the BLACK/ white wire from that 5 pin harness? the harness that includes the brake shutdown, and tach sence?
Posted By: cntrylvr79
Date Posted: January 13, 2006 at 10:11 PM
Tiburons don't need a bypass module. Well the american ones don't. The cantadian ones do. I speak from experience have done more than a couple starters in tiburons. For some reason they seem to be a popular car in this area. ------------- Cause I'm So white and nerdy...
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Posted By: playtilithrtz
Date Posted: January 14, 2006 at 11:11 AM
on the viper their is a BLACK/ white wire witch is supposedly go to a switch then to ground. what i did i eliminated the switch as set it to ground. i have done that to my car and oner car the same type and model and had no problems. could it be that the location that attached this gound wire not be a proper ground? but that wouldnt make sence because the alarm/ r.s. works fine. i just vcant get the car to start with key. by the way i still havent tried any of the above yet because this kids car is in NJ, and im in NY, about 2 hours away. so i still yet have to trouble shoot....
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