clifford dual zone prox set up?
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Topic: clifford dual zone prox set up?
Posted By: steveo29
Subject: clifford dual zone prox set up?
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 3:38 PM
ok i have g4 clifford, i currently have the prox sensor behind the shift lever and its not very good there ive been told the roof would be a better option, but i can only really fit it just behind the windscreen, kinda between the visors . is it going to be too far forward??
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Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 4:29 PM
probably would be.. try it and see if you can adjust it to suit your needs. post your findings
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Posted By: ringojam
Date Posted: January 01, 2006 at 6:29 PM
Put in the head liner near the dome light for best proformance,extend the wires if needed.Remember if there is tint that is of the metalised type it will reduce the proformance of the sensor  ------------- Jamaica home of the worlds fastest man.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 02, 2006 at 4:27 AM
ringojam the area that you describe has the inner metalwork for the sunroof , i dont think i will be able to hide it without the liner buldging
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 02, 2006 at 10:46 AM
ok a couple more questions, i need to extend the wiring and i have some 8amp wire...will that be suitalble? i was looking around and i think it could be mounted under the dash, maybe to the heater box or something..will there be any issues fixing it to non metal surfaces?
Posted By: ryguy
Date Posted: January 02, 2006 at 11:03 AM
i have found that fluresent lights ,like work lights or shop lights have also made the performance poor on these sensors . u may want to set it outside or the shop .
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Posted By: sparkie
Date Posted: January 02, 2006 at 3:46 PM
The best place to mount the sensor is on the floor of the vehicle. The sensor does require a 6" x 6" area of metal behind it for best results. I do not recommend that you mount the sensor overhead. The roof of any vehicle does move ever so slightly with wind and other environmental factors. If the roof does flex or move even imperticeptably it is enough to cause the sensor to false. It does this because it will see the entire sensor field area that it monitors move in and out away from the sensor. Even mounting the sensor to a roof brace isn't good enough. Mount the sensor under a seat close to the center of the vehicle. As mentioned, window tint will prevent the sensor from seing beyond the windows. The sensor will penetrate most things except metal. All window tint has atleast some metal content. The darker the tint the less the sensor will see through. Be patient and take your time setting it up to get the best results.
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Posted By: ringojam
Date Posted: January 04, 2006 at 8:10 PM
I hav found puttin it center console is good for some applications, waggons it dose not work too good or on some hatch back cars thats why i like the roof,never had a problem in a roof applacition it etremely hot down here never had problem your advice is well taken sparkie  ------------- Jamaica home of the worlds fastest man.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 7:35 AM
okay ive decided to move my G4 c 600's dual zone proxy sensor to the roof, ive gutted half the car and ready to move it i cut the wire expecting there to be just a BLACK/ BROWN / red..but theres a bare braid running along inside and then the whole lot is wraped in foil the the normal outer covering what do i do to extend it??
Posted By: cosmoworks
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 11:02 AM
You'll have to use 3 conductor shielded cable to extend it. The outer wire is a ground shield. You can try to just extend it with standard wire, but could potentially get noise and false alarms.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 10, 2006 at 11:12 AM
thanks for the reply....do you know if this type of cable is used on anything else? computers/microphone cable etc
Posted By: cosmoworks
Date Posted: January 11, 2006 at 11:32 AM
Some audio cables shield like that.. your local electronics store might have cable like this on the shelf.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 8:24 AM
okay ive now moved my clifford dual zone prox to the roof, just toward the rear in the hopes of better coverage so i tried to set it up, how much coverage should i expect for the inner zone?? it seems to like being set at where it senses you near the headunit or steering wheel...i had hoped for a little coverage in the rear/hatch area, is that too much to ask? what about the outer zone..do they get unreliable if you set it more than a few inches from the glass? any tips/hints please
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 11:04 AM
Set your inner zone to the maximum right before it picks you up outside the vehicle. I set the warning zone to pick me up If I lean towards the car to look in the window about 1foot away. This way you can walk near it all day long and you will never hear a sound from it unless there is a genuine threat. The more you turn it up the more of a chance of weather and and unsignificant threats setting it off. If you do have the urge to crank it up. Only do it to the warning zone and leave the inner zone set like I told you, so if anything it just honks instead of a full blast, which will also FACT out the prox sensor.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 11:23 AM
thanks...do you have one ina scirocco then?? mines in a mk2/a2 golf that pretty much how it is set...although the inner one falsed for some reason although i cant trigger it by touching the windows
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 12:28 PM
Yes I have one in scirocco, and two in a2 jettas, Mine never false and i mean never. They are not in the roof, although I have put them there in other vehicles before. I find the best placement right in between the seats. Turn it down a beep or two and see what happens. If it still does it you might have a bad sensor. Get a shock/omnisensor to work with your prox sensor for the ultimate protection.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 12:38 PM
thanks, i already have a omni too am i expecting too much to want coverage in the rear seat hatch area?? ive got it so if you grab for the wheel /stereo it gets you..but if i reach in toward the rear seat or from the open hatch it doesnt get me i noticed i could mount it so its angled toward the rear a little...would that be a idea?
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 1:06 PM
No, you reached the limits, the sensor puts out a circle with a even radius from the sensor being the center of the circle. And it is not a completely exact science, If you turn it up you will make it get more sensitive to the front and sides of the vehicle and probably cause it to go outside the windows, I think you reached the limits. You do have hatch pin hooked up to make the alarm go off if the hatch is opened right. Just thinking that should at least cover somebody going in from the hatch.
Posted By: steveo29
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 1:16 PM
yeah i have the pin on the hatch, its just i hear thieves like to cut out side windows to gain entry
Posted By: Powermyster
Date Posted: January 17, 2006 at 1:58 PM
he still won't make it to the front of the car without triggering the alarm. you should be ok with what you got
get another prox if you think its really gonna be a problem
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