02 Camry, Remote start

I tried to install a Crimestopper Cool Start RS900, series 7, in a 2002 Camry this weekend. Using the wiring info from the vehicle wiring database. I didn't have much luck.

I'm hoping someone here could point me in the right direction:
First - The information in the forums (and in the Vehicle Wiring Databse) is somewhat contradictive. The Database says that the 'Accessory' wire is Blue/Red. Others say it's just Blue. How can I test to verify?

Next - Does it have a second ignition or second starter, or both? One or two Accessories? The RS900 only has IGN 1, IGN 2 and 1 starter lead(s). How do I tie into 2 Ignitions, 2 Starters and 2 Accessories?

Also - I bought the 555X. I just can't seem to find the Data, Sync and Clock wires it says I should tie into (GREEN / WHITE, Blue / YELLOW and RED / Blue) anywhere in the ignition harness. Where should I be looking?

Last - there's been a lot of talk about the two BLACK / YELLOW wires in the Ignition Switch Harness. Again differing opinions. I 'think' after reading the forums that the smaller wire is 2nd ignition and the larger one is Starter 2.. Is this right? Again, how can I test to verify?

Sorry for the noob questions. This has been a pretty frustrating experience.

Thanks.

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CLS

when you're testing ignition harness wires they should test as follows:
starter - 12V only during crank, 0V in all other positions
accessory - 12V in ACC, and Run positions, 0V in crank
ign - 12V in crank and run positions
This should answer both your first and last questions

The 02 camry should have 2 starters, 2 ignitions, and 1 accessory. If you only have 1 starter output, you can wire up an additional relay from the remote starter to provide power to the second starter wire.

Most remote starters have an accessory output, or at least a programmable ignition output that allows it to be dead during crank, essentially making it an accessory output.

All of the wires for the 555x should be able to be found coming right off the key cylinder, that's where the transponder antenna is.



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Life moves pretty fast; if you don't stop and look around once in a while; you could miss it.

The two small BLACK / YELLOWs are the same size. One is second starter one is second ignition. Do not tie the two starter wires in together or use a diode as the AM1 fuse will blow, you must relay the second starter. Are you sure you even have an immobilzer? 50% of the Camrys don't. Are the keys fat or skinny? Do you have a security light next to the heater controls? If you have a security light on the dash you will need to hook up the keysense wire .Also, the accessory wire is blue/red, a thin wire.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Honestly, it sounds like you shouldn't be putting this in without some supervision =)
I'm almost guessing there will be some bill at the dealership for this one
good luck man.

Great!

Thanks for the info. I probably won't be able to go after it again until this weekend. But this helps alot!

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CLS

DOH!   

You're right, skinny key, no security light. I don't think it has an immobilizer (explains why I can't find the wires.)

Well this should help to simplify things...

Thanks for the moment of clarity.

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CLS

bazzgazm wrote:

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Honestly, it sounds like you shouldn't be putting this in without some supervision =) ...

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LOL!

I'm certainly more than capable of breaking things.  I'm also capable ot putting them back together too.  This isn't my first Remote start install (thought it would seem as such.)  Just had some bad information going into this one.   Not to mention some instances of less than intelligent decision making on my part. 

Besides, who better to watch over me than the people in this forum...  Aside from the voices in my head of course  .

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CLS

Hornshockey wrote:

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...you can wire up an additional relay from the remote starter to provide power to the second starter wire.

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So, to wire up the additional relay I'd use:
85 - Starter Output from the RS Module.
86 - Ignition Output (-) from from the RS
87 - 12v
30 - 2nd Starter

Is that right?

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CLS

That will work fine, but for future reference 30 should be your source wire. While what you have will do the job, reverse it and use 30 for 12V and 87 to the BLACK / YELLOW second starter.

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

Got it. Will do.

Thanks again for all your help.

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CLS

I just read a thread on Sounddomain where a guy putting in a RS in an 02 Camry fried the transponder amplifier by hooking the bypass up wrong.  $700 bill from the dealer to get the car back running.

https://forum.sounddomain.com/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=004068

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South Side Audio
2501 S. High St
Columbus, OH 43207

Thats why i only use 556uw's on Toyotas

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services

The 555X is too expensive, and too time-consuming/risky to install.

On older Toyotas, it is soooo easy to just program your own aftermarket transponder key, and then install that in a regular bypass box.

Also, older Ford keys and older Toyota keys have the same type of chip inside, and can be interchanged. Used keys can be re-programmed to another car, too.

great information.

Chris Luongo wrote:

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The 555X is too expensive, and too time-consuming/risky to install.

On older Toyotas, it is soooo easy to just program your own aftermarket transponder key, and then install that in a regular bypass box.

Also, older Ford keys and older Toyota keys have the same type of chip inside, and can be interchanged. Used keys can be re-programmed to another car, too.

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).

Interesting find here... I tried rewiring again tonight. Still no go. Then I noticed on the ignition switch harness that all the wires were labeled on the molex connector . They contradict the directwire color codes. The ignition harness has 1st and 2nd ignition reversed. Same with 1st and 2nd starter .

I'll install using those wires tomorrow.

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CLS

clsmith,

That shouldn't matter too much. Doesn't matter at all, really.

Depending on what brand of remote starter you have, both of the ignition outputs, and both of the starter outputs, should behave the exact same way.

Some units allow you to go into the programming menu and change the "Ignition 2" so that it will instead act like an accessory or starter output, but that is really the only difference.

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Minor side note:

Also, the Ignition 1 wire needs to "see" power when the key is turned on-----this is how the unit goes into programming mode, when you cycle the key on and off at the right time.

For that reason, if you're ever installing into a car that only has a SINGLE ignition wire, you'll want to make sure you're using the Ignition 1 wire for that.

Yup, I can configure the IGN2 out put to be IGN2, ACC2 or Starter2.

In any case.. Working now .

Thanks for all your help. It's great to have a place to turn to like this.

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CLS