relay satellite
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=71335
Printed Date: May 09, 2024 at 6:41 PM
Topic: relay satellite
Posted By: stonecole
Subject: relay satellite
Date Posted: January 23, 2006 at 9:38 AM
What do the four smaller gauge wires connect to that's on the relay satellite of the 791xv. The colors are blue, orange, purple and pink. The wires looks to be either 18 or 20 gauge.
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Posted By: pss5075104
Date Posted: January 23, 2006 at 9:45 AM
The blue is a status out put, orange is a acc wire, purple is a starter wire, and pink is an ing wire. they are small because they are used to trigger a relay to power the wire. only need them if the car has 3 ing wires or 2 acc wires like that.
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Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 23, 2006 at 10:02 AM
Thanks pss507510. I believe I have 2 acc not sure about the ign wires. I'll check. 98 Expedition. blue = ? orange = acc purple = starter side wire pink = ign Is this correct? What wire do the blue connect to?
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 23, 2006 at 2:28 PM
the blue wire durring a remote start is ground. It is used to connect a bypass moduel to the remote start most of the time. It is the same wire as your blue/wht wire on the remote start harness.
Blue- Status(Ground When Remote Start)
Orange- Accessory
Purple-Starter Wire
Pink- Ignition
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 25, 2006 at 1:00 AM
So I connect the small gauge blue wire from the relay satellite to my 555F immobolizer along with the WHITE/ blue wire from the 12-pin connector? Anothe question, do I have to connect the mutiplexed input(blue) from the 12-pin to anything? If so, what do I connect to?
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 25, 2006 at 1:07 AM
No the blue/wht wire in your remote start harness and on the 4 pin relay sat harness are the same thing. No you don't have too hook up that wire.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 26, 2006 at 11:46 PM
OK I finally made all my connections (so I thought) and still nothing. Here some wires that are not connected: 12pin plug RED / white = (-)200mA channel 2 validity output blue = trunk BLACK/ wht = (-)200mA domelight output orange = groung when armed output 7pin plug no wires connected. Look like I just realized my problem. If any of these wires have to be connected let me know to what they need to be connected to. blue = (-)200mA status output ORANGE / blk = 200mA anti-grind/ground when armed output violet = (-)200mA starter trigger org = (-)200mA acc trigger pnk = (-)200mA ign trigger yel = (+) ign input to remote start pnk/wht = 200mA programmable ign/acc trigger OK I really feel stupid now. Let me know what goes where anyway. 6pin plug no wires connected
Posted By: stroked383z28
Date Posted: January 26, 2006 at 11:58 PM
You don't *need* any of the wires you have listed for the 12 pin plug. You need to connect the 7 pin ribbon harness from the brain to the relay pack. You won't need the 6 pin harness either.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 27, 2006 at 12:08 AM
I'm sorry I do have the ribbon connected. I was just looking at the printout in the back of the book and thought they was talking about something else. Well so far everything seem to be right. But the alarm does nothing.
Posted By: godblessdremil
Date Posted: January 27, 2006 at 1:54 AM
Describe what ya mean by the alarm does nothing.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 27, 2006 at 2:49 AM
After I made the connections, I tried to program it. Open the door, turn ign, press program button and so on. The siren is suppose to chirp and the LED suppose to blink. None of that happened.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 12:57 AM
Does anybody have any suggestions. I even went back to double check that all the plugs are all the way in the brain and the relay satellite. ANY ideas are GREATLY appreciated.
Posted By: stroked383z28
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 1:26 AM
Did you touch the cars +12V wire to ground when you were wiring up your power wires? Check to make sure you are getting +12 volts on those wires. If not, check the underhood fuses and the fuses in the 791.
Posted By: stroked383z28
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 1:28 AM
Also make sure you plugged the antenna into the brain.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 1:34 AM
I checked the fuses for the alarm, I'll check under the hood tomorrow thanks. I don't think I shorted the wires but then again you know how things happen and don't realize it happened.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 1:36 AM
Also checked antenna. Everything is plugged in all the way.
Posted By: wishboneattack
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 10:19 AM
You got the relay pack hooked up like this: Reds to +12 volts. And the RED / white to +12 volt.
You cut the starter wire in half and hooked the green wire to the key side of the starter wire, and the purple to the starter side.
Did you learn Tach before trying to start with remote? You started vehicle and held black push button in until blue light came on? If light didn't come on then recheck tach or find another place for tach wire.
Did you hook up the hood pin switch? Are you sure the hood, when closed, is pressing the switch down far enough so that it is not creating a ground?
Make sure this is not +12 volts at your brake switch wire when the brake is NOT being pressed. If there is +12 volts at this wire it will not start.
I can not think of anything else... What kind of vehicle are you putting this into????
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Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 28, 2006 at 12:25 PM
I did not try to remote start. Just trying to program brain for alarm, without this being done first I cannot learn tech.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 29, 2006 at 2:08 PM
The only thing I can think of now is to check to make sure I have a good ground. And make sure everything that is supposed to get 12volts, have it.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 29, 2006 at 11:29 PM
Hit the nail with the hammer. The red wire(12volt constant) did not have 12 volts coming in when checked with my meter. It had a bad connection. My other problem is the remote start. I did learn tech no problem at that point. Then I tried to remote start and it started then immediately cut off. Then I remembered I had to program the 555F. Tried to do that but when tried to remote start the same thing happen, start then stop. Do you think I messed up the 555F? By trying to remote start, then trying to program it? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Posted By: stroked383z28
Date Posted: January 30, 2006 at 12:43 AM
It shouldn't have messed anything up. Is the red wire on the 55F getting +12V constant? Did you connect the blue wire from the 555F to the blue status output wire from the viper? If so, try programming the 555F again making sure to follow the directions closely using the two keys that came with the vehicle. If you can't get the 555 to work you could use a 556U.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 30, 2006 at 12:49 AM
Yes I have all of the connections you mentioned above connected. But the keys are not original keys, I only had one key when I bought the Expedition and I bought to more about a year ago. I'll try to re-program the 555F tommorow. If that don't work I guess I'll try and find a 556U.
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: January 31, 2006 at 1:28 AM
On the vehicle wiring data base to the left, it say for the 98 Expedition has a RED / Black Accessory wire that MUST be used for remote start. Do anyone know what that's supposed to connect to?
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 10:50 AM
Thank everybody. I had the wrong wire connected to the 555F, I had the WHITE/ blue wire( status out) connected and it supposed to be the blue/white (status input) on the secondary remote start pin. Anyway alarm works fine and the remote start works wonderful. Is the park lights supposed to blink the entire time the vehicle is running? And do anyone know where the relay is for the running board lights?98 Expedition
Posted By: leades12
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 11:29 AM
The parking light is programmable in the 3rd menu (for remote start), it can be constant or flashing
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Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 11:48 PM
Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: February 07, 2006 at 1:06 PM
Do anyone have info on programming another remote for the viper 791xv. Just bought a used remote need to find out how to program it. I have the original remote, needed a second remote. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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