manual trans remote start, is it illegal?

Do you really believe Compustar, Ultrastart and all the other companies that sell manual transmission remote starts think they are selling an unsafe product? I don't think so. If designed properly and installed properly they work fine and are safe. Not every company is as paranoid as DEI about not releasing a manual transmission remote starter.

Have either of the above posters read an install guide and owners manual for a manual transmission remote start? I'm curious if you guys know how they actually work.

I know for SURE.....bobk and I have..........please, and sorry.......!

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If the reason is to have a response to someone that wants to put an automatic-only RS in a manual trans vehicle, why not just tell them the reasons why you won't do it, illegal or not? Cost difference between the units should be such a small factor, why even consider it? Maybe their brother Joe happened to have an old unit sitting around and they want you to put it in their manual car.
If they persist even knowing the hazards, then they probably shouldn't be driving- and you have the ultimate say in declining their business.
If you do install a manual trans approved RS and do it properly, I think you should be able to assume they aren't going to go and bypass all the safeties. You can't save everyone from themselves all the time, as much as the lawyers and lawmakers spend their hours doing. If someone takes a lawnmower and decides to trim their hedges with it, but slips and chops a few digits off, oh well. Darwinism.

Is it illegal? I don't know where you are so you need to ask a lawyer. For the most part no, it is not illegal.

I won't do them, regardless of whether they are specific to manuals, because I have seen installer's vehicles take off and if an installer can't be trusted the I sure as hell won't let a customer take it into their own hands.

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I'm not a lawyer, but I highly doubt it's illegal.

Many, many things that we shouldn't do are not illegal.........for example, many states still don't have laws regarding video screens within view of the driver, although that is changing.

Anyway, if you don't want to do remote start/manual transmissions, I think it is best to simply be honest---

tell your customers that although it is possible, your shop won't do it because you think it is too great a liability risk, and/or it would bother your conscience if something happened.

Here's how I see it:

--If you state something as an opinion or a decision, it is pretty hard for people to argue with you or tell you you're wrong.

--If you state something as a FACT, it is often easy for someone to come back with proof that your statement was wrong, which might make you look foolish or dishonest.

Well said Chris, when it gets down to liability, who is to blame for a mishap? If the shop sells the RS for manual trannies, then it should be that it's going to get hooked up right or the customer can go on, no exceptions! It's not a matter as you said of being "legal" or "illegal"(although in some states, it may be illegal), it's a matter of integrity, negligence is not something that any reputable shop wants to play with or be responsible for. Look at this: I am not a lawyer either, but, check with your insurance companies and get their feedback on RS's, you'll find that most don't care for them and in some cases can actually increase your rates for the "added" risk factor, I found this out with mine and had to show detailed proof that it was installed correctly with all safety features hooked up, the security portion didn't matter to them, my rates remained the same, but, still check it out with your insurance company, your's may have a different stance on the issue, and they can tell you alot quicker than a lawyer whether it's legal or not, just my 2 cents,

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Les