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97 jeep grand cherokee, viper 791xv

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=71977
Printed Date: April 24, 2024 at 9:10 AM


Topic: 97 jeep grand cherokee, viper 791xv

Posted By: ltrains
Subject: 97 jeep grand cherokee, viper 791xv
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 1:27 PM

hey people, this my first post.. i want to install the 791xv to my 97 jeep grand cherokee.. i read almost every post on installing but this will be my first time.. i want to save myself 200-300 from the shopp.. i already bought 455t module.. but i dont know where to start.. any suggestions will be great.. is there a secret place where i could hide the alarm thing and the other stuff.. and the wires.. should i solder or just use black tape.. please help thank you

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..



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Posted By: bazzgazm
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 2:57 PM
save 200-300 for installation
spend 400-600 in repairs=)
locate a wiring diagram
invest in a nice multimeter
soldering iron
acid free solder
scotch 33 electrical tape
wire strippers, cutters, etc.
and make sure you read the multimeter and install booklet to see how the wires are tested and what should be read. =)




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 3:16 PM

yeah i have a solderin iron, a volt meter.. i should solder every wire?

where should i hide the unit.. whats the worst that can happen if do something wrong?

can it be that bad? how should i tap into the 12volts?



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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 6:10 PM
bump....any help,??

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 7:39 PM

anybody?



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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 8:28 PM
You're question is just kind of broad. Did it come with a manual? If not, check out the "Downloads" section of this website...you can get it there.

I didn't solder any wires on mine. I just cut back some of the wire's cover, thread the other wire through it, and then wrap it tight in some good electrical tape (3m brand)....and I've never had problems. But everyone is different.




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 8:47 PM
anybody have any step by step instructions with a jeep grand

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: bmwpwner
Date Posted: February 01, 2006 at 10:16 PM

wow, if you don't know whether or not you should be soldering or "twisting -n- taping" then you should probably just buck up and pay the shop to do it. i apprenticed for a year under a great installer before i attempted my first alarm and did a bunch of alarms before i did my first remote start. the worst that can happen during the install is:

- kill or smoke the factory computer

- deploy an airbag or two

- start an electrical fire

- etc.

and i can tell ya from experience that you are never completely done with an alarm install. here is the way i explain it to my customers. this isn't like a radio installation where if it doesn't go as planned then you don't have music for a couple of days until you get it fixed. this unit has complete control over your entire vehicle (ie. the starter, the locks, the parking lights, and door triggers). if you do something wrong then you are increasing your risk of becoming stranded somewhere at the least opportune time. when you couple that with limited experience of alarm backgrounds and troubleshooting skills AND a twist and tape alarm install you are asking for huge trouble. no offense but not everyone is qualified to DIY.



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"I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think."
-Socrates-




Posted By: stonecole
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 12:38 AM

I'm no pro, but the first thing I did was find each wire: constant 12volts, door trigger, brake, park lights and so on. I used t-taps. I didn't cut any wires except the starter wire. It took me a few days to do this. So take your time, it could be done. After I found all of the wires I needed, I sat my alarm brain under dash very close to the top. Then I pulled each wire to its location, not making any connections at this time. Just make sure you have every wire you need where it should be. I used t-taps on all the vehicle wires and the alarm wire I cramped connectors to them. When I made my connections all I had to do is slide the connectors into the t-tap. The very last wire I connected was the starter wire because you have to cut that wire. Remember this took me several weeks because I didn't work on it everyday. And this was my very first install. 791xv.  Good Luck





Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 02, 2006 at 2:11 AM
thanks for the replys,, now i really want to get on the installination.. but i probally take my time as stone cold sed so.. any more suggestions will be greatly appeciated.. i already started mind as well finish it,, i wouldnt wana go back to a installer have them laugh at me..

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: quickray
Date Posted: February 04, 2006 at 12:29 PM

I just installed a dei starter and 455t in my '97 grand.  This was my first install and it honestly took me less than 2 hours total.  Most of the wires you need are right under the steering column.  The only 2 issues (minor) that I have/had was that I couldn't find the door pinswitch wire in the drivers kickpanel (so, I wired up the included one instead).  And, the automatic lock/unlock doesn't work, because I believe this is tied into the neutral safety switch that I just grounded (The remote lock/unlock works It just won't unlock automatically when returned to the park position).  When the weather gets warmer I will fish a wire to the tranny.  I am running it tachless and it works flawlessly but hooking it up to the coil wont be to much more work if needed.  There is enough room to manuever to under the dash to solder all the wires (which I did).  Also if you remove the 2 screws holding the factory plug I will give you more room as well for the 2 wire 455t install.  I installed the unit under the steering column after cutting out some of the foam but I probablly wouldn't recomend this spot for an alarm because it would be the first place a thief would look.  Their "might" be enough room behind the stereo and heating controls but Im not sure how muh better this would be.





Posted By: quickray
Date Posted: February 04, 2006 at 12:32 PM
Edit: I meant hood pinswitch not door.posted_image




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: February 04, 2006 at 9:09 PM
Buy some knee pads. very helpful. Take your time and double check evrything. DO NOT mess with any wires wrapped in a yellow sleeve, this might be your air bags, they get kinda expensive to replace. Good luck and let us know how you do.




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 06, 2006 at 6:04 PM

my car doorlocks didn't work after i first tryed it but the remote start worked.. but after 5-10mins, it doesn't start with the remote or key.. i didn't wire the CCD BUS wires on the module.



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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: February 06, 2006 at 6:06 PM
i saw a radio shack alarm in my car, should i leave it in there or disconnect it

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: April 24, 2006 at 11:02 PM
hey guys, its me again... the alarm is great but i never really got the chance to work on the alarm sensor.. everything works except the alarm.. i placed the shock sensor where the old alarm shock sensor was at but it doesn't detect nothing, its actually a good place to put sensor since its all the way in the kick panel by drivers...i tap the the sensor sometimes but it doesn't trigger either.. i do see the red light blinking..  the shock is connected to the brain but it rarely triggers even if i tap it with my fingers.. anybody know what should i do? the alarm triggers if i open the doors and stuff but it wont trigger when some hits it anything.. the remote start works, the door unlocks fine.. but i really want to get this fixed.. please help, thanks... i also bought a glass sensor, that wont work either..

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: jonchos
Date Posted: April 24, 2006 at 11:05 PM

It sounds like your connector for the sensors is bad. Do you have another alarm that you can test the sensor in?





Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: April 26, 2006 at 5:57 PM
but the unit was brand new, gotta be some other reason for it not to work.. any more ideas?

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: ltrains
Date Posted: June 07, 2006 at 12:06 AM
bump*

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grand cherokee 97 4.0
avic n2 with cdr11 remote and xm..




Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: June 07, 2006 at 10:46 PM
Ya man, brand new doesnt mean anything. The drivers side kick is a horrible place for the shock sensor though, you want it more centralized or else it wont detect both sides evenly. Did you turn the sensitivity up on the sensor?

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double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer





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