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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 16, 2024 at 4:52 PM


Topic: inline cable hood lock

Posted By: bigac
Subject: inline cable hood lock
Date Posted: February 08, 2006 at 7:32 PM

I am looking for an inline cable hood lock. I had one on a 90 Mustang 10 years ago. It was installed by a local Audio and Alarm shop. When I say inline, I mean it is spliced inline with the existing mechanical cable. When the alarm is armed and then activated by an intrusion it will not let you pop the hood with the inside hood release. but then when the alarm is reset and disarmed it functions normally.

Also I am looking for a good backup battery for alarm install and any recommendation on mounting and location. And a good alarm siren with backup battery. Any help will be greatly appreciated



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Posted By: bigac
Date Posted: February 08, 2006 at 10:28 PM

Anyone??? Help????



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Posted By: dualsport
Date Posted: February 08, 2006 at 11:03 PM
I used to have a Chapman and Maxi-lok type hood lock, but they weren't the inline type you're describing; they would use a deadbolt kind of arrangement. They don't seem to be in vogue any more though.
Did that inline one prevent you from pulling on the release by locking it down in the middle, or did it work by breaking the cable so that pulling the release only moved the loose end?
That might not stop someone from manually releasing the latch from under the hood but it should buy some time to catch 'em in the act.




Posted By: bigac
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 12:36 AM

It worked by breaking the cable in the middle.

I have searched high and low for anything similar and have had no success. I found a Club Electronic Hood Lock on ebay that the bidding had ended on, but I am not sure if that is what I am looking for.

It would be nice to find one that can be (easily) integrated into existing alarm.

Why don't they make these any more?

I do no that on Lexus & some other models that when the alarm has been triggered you cannot pop the hood or the trunk, cuz they use electric or electronic releases.



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Posted By: bigac
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 12:53 AM
bigac] wrote:

P>It worked by breaking the cable in the middle.

I do no that on Lexus & some other models that when the alarm has been triggered you cannot pop the hood or the trunk, cuz they use electric or electronic releases.


It worked by breaking the cable so if it was pulled from inside you would be pulling on the loose end and you would feel no resistance at all, that is normal there when trying to release the hood.

"I do know" correction

Also on the fact of releasing the hood manually, from underneath, I am fabricating a plate that will wrap around hood release so that you cannot gain access from underneath unless you tore it apart.



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Posted By: dualsport
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 1:03 AM
Maybe you can put something together to use a trunk release actuator in place of the hood release cable, so you can lock it out electrically like you mentioned about the Lexus- might be easier to do than cutting into the OEM cable.




Posted By: gyropilot
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 10:16 AM

Bigac,

What about this item... DEI's 565T hood lock kit?

https://www.asianwolf.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=1068694%7C1069136&PRID=1109518

I've not seen one in person, but it appears to be a cable with a hood locking pin.  I guess you add this to your vehicle in addition to the existing OEM cable and release mechanism.

Regarding an electrical release...

I've thought about removing the manual hood release cable and replacing it with an electric trunk actuator on my vehicle as a way to prevent unauthorized opening of the hood.  I thought it could be controlled by one of the aux channels on the alarm system.  But then I worry about what would happen in the event the vehicle battery went completely dead!  How the heck would you be able to easily and quickly open the hood to get to the battery for a jump start?  Obviously you'd have to add a remotely accessible battery jumper terminals somewhere else on the vehicle.  At that point an electric actuator for the hood starts sounding kind of unattractive to me.

An alternative idea (maybe not very good) might be to simply reroute and *hide* the manual hood release cable and handle in the vehicle.  Then again maybe not. :)

Please let us know what you decide to do.

John L.





Posted By: dualsport
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 10:28 AM

If you have a backup battery for the alarm, which I'd assume would be a good thing to have if we're going to such lengths, the actuator could be powered off that, so the alarm and release would still be functional even if you left the lights on or the main battery was disabled. 

Worst case, you probably could jump it from underneath the car, since the starter cable is generally accessible.  Of course, not something you'd want to do wearing your good clothes or in high snowdrifts, so that'd really be a last ditch effort.  How does Lexus set it up?  I'm sure they worked it out so their customers wouldn't have to crawl around on the ground if they drained down the battery-  cell phone and roadside assistance mebbe. posted_image





Posted By: bigac
Date Posted: February 09, 2006 at 10:13 PM
bigac] wrote:

P>I do know that on Lexus & some other models that when the alarm has been triggered you cannot pop the hood or the trunk, cuz they use electric or electronic releases.


I was wrong on the hood not being able to be released. It is only the trunk that cannot be released. I am a Locksmith and I have had several customers lock their keys in the trunk and the only ways to get them out is to pick the trunk lock which is very difficult, drill the trunk lock and replace with new lock(which customers do not want to do), get the key code and cut a new key-by-code(also difficult), or drive the customer to pick-up spare key (if they have one). So if you have a Lexus, (certain models) 98 or newer I believe, do not lock your keys in the trunk.

I learned this the hard way. I had a customer call and said she had locked her keys in the car. Never once over the phone did she say that she had locked her keys in the trunk. I get out to the car and proceed to open it, which is difficult in itself, because the factory security system goes off when you try to manually unlock the vehicle when this happens you have about .3 to .5 seconds to get the door open, because it automatically relocks the doors. So I get the vehicle open and I cannot see the keys. I ask the lady where her keys are and she says I told you they were in the trunk. DOOOOHHHHH! When the alarm goes off it will not let you pop the trunk with interior trunk release until the alarm is reset.

As for replacing the hood cable with a trunk type solenod sounds very interesting.

Thanks for the ideas.



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