remote start problem camaro
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 8:37 AM
Topic: remote start problem camaro
Posted By: donkason
Subject: remote start problem camaro
Date Posted: December 28, 2002 at 6:38 AM
I am installing a crimestopper remote start/alarm on a 1997 camaro. I hooked up all of the wires and got the correct resistance to match my key resistance on my crimestopper bypass. Upon attempting a start, the motor wouldn't crank until the last split second of the attempt, and then quickly shut down. All of my dip pins were in the correct place and I even tried a longer cranking time (1.25) but still the same result. Any suggestions.
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J. Mike Perkins
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: December 28, 2002 at 9:51 AM
How is the ground for the system ? Is it a solid ground to a place that has no paint or dirt/grease ? If the ground is not good the systems will not engage the starter. Check this out and post your results.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: December 30, 2002 at 5:43 PM
The cars battery decided to go out on me so that is what the problem is. Now I have another problem. I am using the crimestopper CS-GMAII for the bypass the alarm/remote start is a cs-2006 fm1. It attempts all 3 times just like it should but no start. I switched the dip pins from .8 sec. to 1.25 sec. of start time and that didn't work. To anser the above reply my ground is a solid good ground. I sanded down the metal thoroughly before making the connection. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. ------------- J. Mike Perkins
Posted By: brianh
Date Posted: December 30, 2002 at 9:06 PM
Is the ground out when running wire connected to the bypass unit correctly? Brian
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: December 31, 2002 at 4:56 AM
I have it hooked up to the orange anti grind/starter kill wire off of my alarm unit.
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J. Mike Perkins
Posted By: brianh
Date Posted: December 31, 2002 at 7:12 AM
Do you have a wire on the R S unit that gives a ground when remotely started? Brian
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: December 31, 2002 at 10:21 AM
Yes, that is my orange wire I mentioned above. It is the negative starter kill/ anti grind output, which grounds during remote start and while the system is armed. That orange wire is ran to the wire on my bypass that requires the ground while remote starting. Sorry for not making that more clear. ------------- J. Mike Perkins
Posted By: finnman925
Date Posted: December 31, 2002 at 11:42 PM
do you have a valid tach source ?
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 01, 2003 at 8:51 AM
Do you arm the system prior to the attempts at remote starting the car ? I ask because the ORANGE wire you speak of is not the same as a ground out when running wire. The GOWR wire has a (-) current only when the RS is activated and after the sequence is finished, there is 0 current in this wire. The ORANGE wire you speaker of is a starter disable wire for the starter disable circuit that has a (-) current only when armed. This is just a guess, but check this out and see if this is your problem.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: January 01, 2003 at 11:45 AM
If the alarm is armed or not it still doesn't start. I hooked up a volt meter to the orange wire, hot side to a 12 volt constant and ground to the orange wire. It grounds out during remote start and while the alarm is armed. The instruction manual said that this wire is made for anti theft bypass modules. My tach wire is hooked up at the 10 pin blue connector located at the passenger side kick panel. The tach wire is white. I hear that in some G.M. and Toyota vehicles may have more than one ignition or accessory circut that requires power for the vehicle to start. Does anybody know if my car needs one of these.(1997 camaro) ------------- J. Mike Perkins
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 01, 2003 at 12:18 PM
| ITEM | WIRE COLOR |POL| WIRE LOCATION |
| 12V|red |+ |ignition harness |
| STARTER|yellow |+ |ignition harness |
| IGNITION|pink |+ |ignition harness |
| ACCESSORY|orange must enable |+ |right of dr.kick panel |
| POWER LOCK|RED / black |- |BCM in pass kick |
| POWER UNLOCK|tan & gray/black *2 |5wi|BCM in pass kick |
| LOCK MOTOR|gray | |BCM in pass kick |
| UNLOCK MOTOR|tan | |BCM in pass kick |
| DISARM DEFEAT|gray/black | |BCM in pass kick |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|brown | |drivers kick panel |
| HEADLIGHTS|yellow |+ | |
| DOOR TRIGGER|gry/blk and blk/wht |- |BCM in pass kick *3 |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|ORANGE / black |- |BCM passenger kick |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|BLACK/ white |+ |relay near pass. kick |
| FCTRY ALARM ARM|*5 | | |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|*5 | | |
| TACHOMETER|white or RED / black | |coil/dist. assembly *1 |
| BRAKE WIRE|light blue |+ |at brake switch |
| HORN TRIGGER|black |- |black conn. st. column |
| WIPERS|green or gray |+ |black conn. st. column |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|dk. blue - brown |A |in drivers door |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN|lt. blue - tan *4 |A |in drivers door | Notes:
*1 White-V6, RED / black-V8. Location is front of left cylinder head for V6 and at a 4 pin plug at the passenger side valve cover for the V8. *2 The tan will unlock the drivers door and the gray/black will unlock the passenger door. Wire each as a 5-wire system with separate relays. See direct fax document #1052. *3 Seperate left and right door triggers, diode isolate. *4 Bypass module for driver's window and connect directly to motor leads. In passenger door motor wires are dk. blue and brown. *5 Some models are equipped with a factory alarm. The only way to disarm these alarms is with the factory remote or turning on the ignition. To turn off the factory alarm, 'see direct fax document #1051'. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: January 01, 2003 at 1:44 PM
thanks a lot for all of your help and patients. I have it figured out now. Happy new years!!!!!!!
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J. Mike Perkins
Posted By: bobs94
Date Posted: January 02, 2003 at 6:21 PM
I also have a 97 camaro. Do you remember how you wired the locks? I am struggling here.
Posted By: donkason
Date Posted: January 02, 2003 at 7:19 PM
Yes I do. You need 2 one amp diodes and a single pole double throw relay. Run one diode from your ORANGE / black unlock wire to the negative unlock wire on your alarm, the stripe on the diode has to be facing the neg. alarm wire(cathode side to neg. alarm wire). The run your second diode from the 87a (middle terminal) on your S.P.D.T. relay to the neg. unlock wire on your alarm also with the cathode side to the neg. alarm wire. You will have both cathode sides of the diodes and the neg. alarm wire twisted together. Terminal 86 on relay, ground, Terminal 30, grey/black off of your B.C.M located on the large 32 pin connector, I believe it is on the blue side and is labeled #11. Terminal 85 on relay, run to a Reserved Accessroy Power like the 12 volt Acc. wire on your radio. Terminal 87 is not used in this application. As for your lock just run the RED / black wire off of the B.C.M. straight to the neg. lock wire on your alarm. Let me know how it goes and good luck One more note, This is not a 5 wire system it is a 3 wire system. I have had people tell me different but they changed systems between 95 and 97. If you want pictures and good detail on how to install an alarm on your 97 camaro check out https://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody/alarm.htm ------------- J. Mike Perkins
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