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2006 Saturn Vue remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=72719
Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 4:39 AM


Topic: 2006 Saturn Vue remote start

Posted By: greggsymington
Subject: 2006 Saturn Vue remote start
Date Posted: February 12, 2006 at 9:51 PM

Hey guys. I'm looking for some help. Im installing a remote start in a 06 vue. I'm having trouble getting a dei 555l to learn the r-code. Also not sure if the wires are connected right. I used the 555l in my 03 ion but traded it in. the vue is not the same system. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.



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Posted By: redpeppers
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 1:58 AM
how do u have it wired up?  R u learning the R code while u are cranking the engine?

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Where theres is a wire there's a way.




Posted By: greggsymington
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 5:30 AM
i have the BLACK / YELLOW and yellow wire from 555l to the WHITE/ black, the pink to the yellow from remote start, and the blue/black to the ground while started from remote start. and of course red to 12v and black to ground. i have no idea if it's learning the code.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 6:34 AM
--The black 555L ground is best connected to the car's Passlock ground wire, not chassis ground, as is stated in the manual. But it should still work with chassis ground, at least for a little while.

--You didn't mention what kind of remote starter you have; what is the yellow wire? The pink of the 555L should be hooked up to ignition.

--As far as I can remember, there is no connection to any sort of WHITE/ black wire in the car.

The correct Passlock resistance wire is yellow, and the Passlock ground is ORANGE / black or black.

The three Passlock wires are taped together, just to the right of the keyswitch, higher-up from the regular ignition wires. They then run into a 5/8" thick plastic-gray-tubing harness.




Posted By: bazzgazm
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 8:39 AM
Just so you guys know, saturn has had a problem w/ their newer cars (some gm's too) w/ 555l's. Their R-code is outside of the learning range of the 555l units.
You can try the newer 456/457g. but that may still not work.
They have a fix for it but i can't sign on right now to show you.




Posted By: another-kelly
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 8:52 AM

this the one bazz?

"Vue and L series vehicles have a strange wave form pattern on their PL systems. On an O scope it looks like a roller coaster ride. If you try and flat line it like all other PL2 systems it will kick the security light on. When the signal becomes too radical, the 555L can't keep up and on comes the security light. No simple solution, and only something like 1 out of 20 or so will have this problem.

Various solutions out there, none work 100%"





Posted By: bazzgazm
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 2:09 PM
Thank you for that bit of copying from moderator X @ dei =)




Posted By: greggsymington
Date Posted: February 13, 2006 at 8:08 PM
thanks for the kelp guys. i realized there was a second harness. i was used to my ion and thought they were all in the same plug. although i'm still having problems. i finally found the correct wires but still no-go. with the 555L connected the security light comes when started with the key and then stalls. I'm thinking i have a bad module. any suggestions on the best module and where i can get it.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 7:23 AM
Describe where each of the wires 555L's wires are connected to Saturn----we will try to verify that you haven't made a mistake.

The Passlock II system is quite different from what was in your Ion; maybe you did something different.




Posted By: greggsymington
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 8:17 PM
Black to passkey ref ground. Red to 12v constant. Yellow to key side Yellow(car). Yellow/black to BCM Yellow. Pink to remote start ignition. Blue/orange to remote start (-)while running. i believe that's it. i'm not looking at it.




Posted By: greggsymington
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 8:21 PM
sorry for the double post (no edit button). there is a purple starter wire on 555L, the manual says not used with PassLockII? should it be hooked up?




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Yeah, sounds like your wires are right, except that the ground-when-running input is blue/black; you may have just incorrectly remembered it as blue/orange.

And right, there are two wires that are NOT connected for Passlock II systems----the starter wire (purple) and bulb check (I think it's BLACK/ white? not sure though).

If you don't mind, I'll throw a series of questions/thoughts your way......

--Sounds like your 555L's wires are right----but where are the wires you connected to in the car? Should be that if you lay on your back and look up, into the plastic steering column shroud, off toward the passenger-side of the keyswitch.......you can see the three wires there, where they run into another, bigger harness with gray plastic tubing.........there is just enough room to make your connections. Not a lot of slack on them.

--Next, would be time to troubleshoot and see if the 555L is "seeing" what it is supposed to.

In one quick and easy step, you can test the quality of your own work, the quality of the wires for the 555L, the fuses.......

Simply go right to the 555L, without even having to unplug it, and touch your circuit-tester to the metal pins that are in the plug.........test for power, ignition, ground, and ground-when running. That'll at least rule those as being good or bad.




Posted By: bazzgazm
Date Posted: February 14, 2006 at 11:42 PM
Again the above post by me and the person after me clearly describe the exact problems you are having, read over it and you'll see it's not all your fault =).





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