06 Dodge Ram Diesel Remote Start problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=73394
Printed Date: July 18, 2025 at 10:48 AM
Topic: 06 Dodge Ram Diesel Remote Start problem
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Subject: 06 Dodge Ram Diesel Remote Start problem
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 2:23 AM
Hey guys. At work, we have been having troubles installing remote start systems in the new Ram diesels. One of the other installers did one tonight and we found the e-brake light on, the airbag light on, and when started with a key, the engine would die after only a few seconds. However when remote started, the engine would stay running, even after turning off the alarm control. The customer needed to leave, so we pulled the fuses in the alarm, and everything went back to normal. I also found out that one of the other installers did one a while ago with problems as well, but with different lights on than this one and without the starter issue. Does anyone know of any tricks that are needed for the new Rams? If it helps, I know he installed a Clifford alarm, a bypass module requiring a chipped key (probably a 556UW), a door lock interface, and a pulse time generator.
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Posted By: dfiddy
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 2:37 AM
Make sure that you wired your accessory and 2nd start relay correctly with the right ohm resistors. I've used a PATS CHRYSLER 04+ for transponder and 2nd accessory and 2nd start. Works like a charm.Just use relays and reisitors for locks/factory security. What type of remote starter are you installing? What are you using for transponder bypass? How many keys do you have to start the Ram? Do they all start it? Anythings else that you can tell us will help us troubleshoot it.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 3:14 AM
Sorry, I wasn't the one doing the install. The installer doing it is master certified with over 12 years experience. He knows the Rams very well. It just seems that the 06 has been giving us difficulty. I know the alarm/starter is a Clifford. I don't believe it is a two- way alarm though. Most likely the bypass module he is using is a DEI 556UW. He most likely used the resistors specified by Directechs. The remote start works, so that proves the key installed in that module is coded correctly. Plus the original key works fine when the alarm was disabled, so yes both keys start it. It's just that the engine shuts off after a few seconds when started with the original key while the alarm is powered up.
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 9:24 AM
a. the bypass is staying powered up when the alarm is powered, trace the ground when running and see if it's active or if there's more than one item using that line, you may need a simple diode to keep things isolated.
b. the airbag/brake lights are becuase the 2nd ign/acc are getting the wrong resistance. I have found 510ohm is what is needed to get it to work properly.
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Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 9:58 AM
This member had the same problem with the no start issue with the key:
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=73359&get=last
It's the bypass module still inducing a signal to the Sentry system while starting. The other error lights are as stated in the other posts..... just incorrect resistor values.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 12:24 PM
Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate the help. It looks like Directechs recommended a 180 ohm resistor on that starter wire. I'll let him know to try the higher value when the customer comes back in, as well as the diode isolation.
Posted By: meh66
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 1:03 PM
How about using a CAN-SL. I have not done this vehicle yet, but I used my first GM-SL yesterday on a 2004 Chevy Impala and everything worked fine. Here is the link to that module. https://www.autoland.ca/byPassModule/byPassShowByVehicle.asp------------- MEH66
"Car Performance and Mobile Electronic Enthusiats"
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 24, 2006 at 10:20 PM
Unfortunately we can only install products Car Toys sells. Well, the customer came back today. It turns out the problem with the vehicle dying with the key was because the ignition (pink) wire on the bypass module was connected, and it wasn't supposed to be. The wire list in the instructions specified that wire to be connected, but the diagram showed it as "unused", so I can see where the confusion came from. He tried the 510 ohm resistor and that didn't get rid of the trouble lights. I'm not sure if the problem was solved when the customer left.
Posted By: wiretapper
Date Posted: February 25, 2006 at 9:29 PM
[QUOTE=meh66]How about using a CAN-SL. I have not done this vehicle yet, but I used my first GM-SL yesterday on a 2004 Chevy Impala and everything worked fine. Here is the link to that module. https://www.autoland.ca/byPassModule/byPassShowByVehicle.asp[/QUOTE] GMSL works real nice. I had two CANSL's not work properly. So much for those.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: February 26, 2006 at 2:02 AM
So does anyone know what resistance to use to get rid of the airbag light and brake light? We don't want to throw out miscelaneous resistances at the computer and screw something up permanently.
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