remote start, manual transmission
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 28, 2024 at 9:28 AM
Topic: remote start, manual transmission
Posted By: mixael-17
Subject: remote start, manual transmission
Date Posted: March 07, 2006 at 10:36 PM
Hi there, I am trying to install a Remote start on a manual tranny for my 1989 Ford Mustang GT. Basically I need help in figuring out how to bypass the clutch or how to detect if the car is left in gear so the remote start won't be activated if it is left in gear. Is there such a relay that can detect this? If so how and where would it be install?. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ------------- Mixael Amaya
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Posted By: mad550
Date Posted: March 07, 2006 at 11:38 PM
You need a neutral saftey switch
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Posted By: corey497
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 3:03 PM
This is how ive done it (but not in in a mustang) with one 4 pole relay assuming theres no factory security system.. On my quote system, the only way to start my truck is for the alarm to be disarmed and the parking brake either set or pushed far enough to have the "PARK" idiot light on. And even if by chance one of the kids knocks it into gear in this condition the parking brake will hold it still. First you need to find out what wires are what at your clutch petal if you have the clutch petal starter kill. Now on my system, the parking brake has to ground to get the "PARK" brake light on and my alarm has a hot when _DIS_armed wire on it.. Now when the alarm is off (wire hot) and the parking brake is set (ground) the relay is closed (allowing a circuit to pass threw it) which in this case is to start the car. How the relay is wired: Input side: igniton start _AND_ remote start wire Ouput side: to starter soilenoid (the wires that were cut/taken from clutch petal) Positve trigger: alarm wire that is hot while alarm is _DIS_ armed Negitive/ground: parking brake wire to idot light on dash So if your buddy parks it somewere and leaves it in gear and hits the remote start: #1 its in gear, parking brake not set, it wont start #2 its in gear and parking brake is set, as soon as the remote start tries to start it, it will notice a heavy power draw, because the starter trying to move the car, and it will stop the remote start hope this helps 
Posted By: audiophd
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 4:05 PM
Use Peripheral's part number NSS its a neutral safety switch maker profided your alaram has the stop and go feature.
Posted By: mixael-17
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 4:39 PM
Where would I be able to het this neutral safety switch?
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 4:51 PM
Look to a RS that is built from the ground up for a manual transmission vehicle. The Compustar alarms are ones that are built like this.
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Posted By: mixael-17
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 4:51 PM
As a matter a fact my car does not have a stock security system. It doesn't sound as difficult as I thought it would. Did you install the alarm on your car yourself? If so how long did it take you. Thanks for your response I'll be working on the car this weekend. hopefully I'll get it to work.
Posted By: mixael-17
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 4:52 PM
Well supposedly the one that I got from ebay is design specifically for Manual transmissions only. Hopefully that will help me out.
Posted By: jmacf14
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 5:42 PM
if your alarm is designed for manual tranny only, then it will have the safety features built into it.for instance on the ultra start remote starters, you have to tap into the door trigger, the parking brakeinput, and the brake input.when you want to remote start, you have to leave the vehicle in "reservation mode", meaning while you are parking your car, put in nuetral, apply parking brake, tap the brake pedal, and turn your ignition off, the car stays running until you get out and shut the door. then it shuts itself off. it will remote start then only if nobody opens the doors.I really do not recomend putting this in a convertible. so for safety make sure that the unit is designed and labled for manual tranny use only! hope this helps. what kind of unit is it any way?
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Posted By: mixael-17
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 10:31 PM
Hey man, Thanks I really like your idea. If it wouldn't be much trouble could you find me that item number so that I can buy it too. By the way my mustang is a hatchback. Thanks
Posted By: mustangfoo
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 10:55 PM
the item number on ebay for that NSS is as follows, but act quick because it ends in 2 days. BTW DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT follow their instructions. If you do the result could be damaging. When I get a chance, if you give me your e-mail I will send you directions on how to do it the proper way where it will not sense at all times. By the time you order and recieve it, and give me your e-mail, I will be able to snap some photos and give you directions on how to do this the right way, cause I found that out the hard way lol.
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Posted By: mixael-17
Date Posted: March 08, 2006 at 11:03 PM
Hey thanks for the item number. I'll buy it today. Let me ask you what king of mustang did you install you R/S. Is it similar to the 89 Gt manual tranny? What happened to your car after you followed their instructions? I would really appreciate if you could email me those instructions. My email address is mixael-17@msn.com. Once again thanks for your help! ------------- Mixael Amaya
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 09, 2006 at 1:02 AM
I don't understand WHY you guys insist on risking life and limb over an ebay, jerry rigged nuetral safety switch....there are so many reputable manufactures that make units specifically designed (with fool proof safety) for a manual trans. Time and money (and maybe your neighbors little kid) saved by doing it the correct way.....never mind
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Posted By: 05gt
Date Posted: March 09, 2006 at 1:09 AM
I'm with KarTuneMan on this one, I would hate to see someone get killed because of someones stupidity
Posted By: jmacf14
Date Posted: March 09, 2006 at 7:18 AM
No doubt, it is the wisest route, cheaper more than likely, and faster to boot!why risk a dangerous situation needlessly? you can get an ultrastart 2256m on the internet for about $75 shipped. your good to go, no extra sensors to wire in, and when installed correctly,it is fool proof.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 09, 2006 at 7:59 AM
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