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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: page guard 8500s alarm

Posted By: trevster99
Subject: page guard 8500s alarm
Date Posted: March 23, 2006 at 2:07 PM

i got my alarm installed the other day and i noticed the the trunk is not hooked up its a power trunk id like to know what needs to be donte to hook this up or where i can look,  also my camera on my alarm will not take any pictures its a page guard 8500s im pritty sure its in the programming of it but my instructions are not very good any sugestions



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Posted By: kohara73
Date Posted: March 23, 2006 at 5:08 PM
What kind of car???

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Keith




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: March 24, 2006 at 8:35 PM

i got everything working but the trunk release. 03 sunfire





Posted By: Hornshockey
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 2:51 AM
there should be two wires coming off the back of the trunk release button. One should be BLACK/ white, a negative trigger to this wire will do the trick. Make sure you test it before you go hooking wires up.

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Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 12:58 PM
im trying to wire up my power locks to the alarm but when i wire up the relays the way supose to it dose not work ive got the heave duty 12volt relays from canadian tire and i also got no power locks on my car but i purchesed some to work with the alarm its a pageguard alarm and the door locks came from a salvage yard they do work i tested them with the battery and the work any sugsetions




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 1:32 PM
https://caralarm.net/eng/img/mnu/pg-8500s.pdf thats the diagram ive been following theres only 2 wires coming from the door lock modual a grey one and a brown one




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:04 PM

Can't get that LINK to work..........
You will need 2 SPDT ( Single Pole Double Throw ) Relays

2 SPDT RELAYS:

NO SWITCH
Lock & Unlock from Alarm ONLY

Relay 1

LOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Relay 2

UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative UnLock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:08 PM




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:08 PM
mo12v] wrote:

P>Can't get that LINK to work..........
You will need 2 SPDT ( Single Pole Double Throw ) Relays

2 SPDT RELAYS:

NO SWITCH
Lock & Unlock from Alarm ONLY

Relay 1

LOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Relay 2

UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative UnLock Output from Alarm
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )


ok now what about the rest of my wires from the alarm copy and past the link it should work that way




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:19 PM
What is your Question??
Are you needing ALL the wire hook up for your Alarm?

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:23 PM

mo12v] wrote:

hat is your Question??
Are you needing ALL the wire hook up for your Alarm?

nono im just trying to hook up the door locks to the relays i hooked it up like it tells me in the manual but i get no response from it can you see it now theres a white wire ( 5 polarity connects to 87 on both relays but i see that it crosses the unlock dose this wire have to be hooked up to the unlock aswell or what might i be doing wrong





Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:24 PM
The LINK you gave is for OPERATION???

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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:30 PM
mo12v] wrote:

he LINK you gave is for OPERATION???
on page 8 of 9 look for the door lock/ unlock diagram




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 2:30 PM

If the GRAY wire Is LOCK & the BROWN wire is UNLOCK:

Relay 1

LOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm     GRAY
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Relay 2

UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative UnLock Output from Alarm   BROWN
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 3:05 PM
ok so this way as showen in the manual will not work then and will it still work with my remote




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 3:07 PM

As I Posted...... IF ..... the GRAY wire Is LOCK & the BROWN wire is UNLOCK:

I have NOT seen your wiring and I am not familiar with that Brand Alarm....

Maybe someone else will post



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 3:14 PM
ok your way should work then right and for the rest of my wires just tape them up




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 7:54 PM
mo12v] wrote:

P>If the GRAY wire Is LOCK & the BROWN wire is UNLOCK:

Relay 1

LOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative Lock Output from Alarm     GRAY
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )

Relay 2

UNLOCK:
PIN 87 =  12 Volts ( + ) Constant
PIN 87a = GROUND
PIN 30 =  wire to Positive side of Actuators
PIN 85 = Negative UnLock Output from Alarm   BROWN
PIN 86 = Constant 12 volt ( + )


ive tried this way and all it dose is spark on the ground wire this can not be correct




Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 8:32 PM
On page 8 of that unit, use the top reverse polarity diagram. The one that shows pictures of actuators in it.

Gray, RED / White to ground.
White to Constant fused +12V.
Orange and Brown are your outputs to your actuators.

This is EXACTLY the same thing as mo12V wrote, except that your relays are built into your system and do not require the pin 85 connections listed in Mo's post...just look at the page, it shows on the very first diagram "Equvalent Circuit" (kind of scary when the manual is not spell checked) on the top, which wires connect to which and their corresponding relay Equivalent locations.

Good Luck,
Keep us posted.




Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 9:38 PM

wait a sec your telling me that the grey and RED / white wire need to be grounded





Posted By: trevster99
Date Posted: April 04, 2006 at 9:54 PM
oh my wierd thats cool though got it to work now i just have to install them in to the door thanks allot guys what a big help





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