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Topic: 2001 monte carlo aftermarket security

Posted By: xenonmatrix
Subject: 2001 monte carlo aftermarket security
Date Posted: March 25, 2006 at 10:52 PM

i ahve a 2001 monte carlo 3.4 v6 no onstar that i am wanting to put a aftermarket security system in along with remote start, i was hoping if it  was possible to get a wiring guide along with a idea of the location of the wiring for the 2001 monte carlo. thank you



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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: March 26, 2006 at 1:25 AM




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 26, 2006 at 5:54 PM

The drivers door trigger wire is blue. Blue/white will catch the passenger door. Use both wires and diode isolate each.

it what meaning do they have for this, like there is supposed to be a diode in each wire with teh chathode facing in what direction and thank you for the wiring diagram





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 26, 2006 at 5:59 PM

is it also possible to get this information if you dont mind at all thank you

DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information.
See DirectFax document 1600 for wiring information.
Lock and unlock use the same wire. Lock requires a
negative trigger with a 470 ohm resistor in-line.
Unlock is negative trigger. Must use relays.





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 10:43 AM

For D.FAX 1600 all it says is to diode or relay isolate the parking light wire otherwise you will get a check engine error after remote starting. Have the diode inline of the (-) parking light output with the cathode band towards the BCM.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 5:12 PM

awesome thank you! any information on document  1076 for like the trunk

CHEVROLET, MONTE CARLO, 2001, Trunk/Hatch Pin

The BCM is located above the brake pedal. It is a plastic box with three plugs that face the firewall.

Have to also diode isolate from the BCM to prevent false alarms. Refer to DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information.

thank you!





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 6:25 PM
CHEVROLET, MONTE CARLO, 2001, Factory Alarm Disarm

The BCM is located above the brake pedal. It is a plastic box with three plugs that face the firewall.

the color is light green do i need to cut that wire? or no?





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Just use the Negative Door Trigger Diode Isolation diagram for the trunk as well. The OEM disarm wire you have to tap into with the OEM disarm output of the alarm/remote starter.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 10:30 PM
i just want to thank you for helping me out with this! this some really great information! thank you!




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 11:05 PM

Do you have any idea where this wire would be located? i notice there the same color but possible different locations any ideas?  thank you

Brake Wire white   +  brake switch

Tachometer white    ignition coil





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 27, 2006 at 11:07 PM

also is there any information of what type of diode? like is it a 1n 47-44 or something else that would be really helpful thank you





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 8:02 AM
xenonmatrix wrote:

Do you have any idea where this wire would be located? i notice there the same color but possible different locations any ideas?  thank you

Brake Wire white   +  brake switch

Tachometer white    ignition coil

The brake wire is found at the brake switch and the tachomoeter wire is found at the ignition coil on the engine.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 8:05 AM
xenonmatrix wrote:

also is there any information of what type of diode? like is it a 1n 47-44 or something else that would be really helpful thank you


You can use a 1N4001 diode



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 11:02 AM
for the 470 ohm resistor are the color bands yellow,violet,black,gold or yellow,violet,black,silver?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 11:09 AM
YELLOW/VIOLET/BROWN / GOLD = 470 ohms @ 5 %

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 11:16 AM
thank you! for helping me out with this it is greatly apreicated!




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 11:24 AM
No problem. If you remember to please post your results or any other questions you may have.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 28, 2006 at 3:55 PM
now will the remote start require anything special at all for it to work?? like a relay or anything? thank you




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 11:20 AM

You will need a bypas module for the Passlock II system and also the BROWN accessory wire must be powered as an ACC wire otherwise the car will not crank. The vehicle has a 2nd IGN as well but if the RS has an output for a 2nd IGN/ACC/START use it for the 2nd IGN and wire in a relay  for the 2nd ACC.

Use this link for the 2nd ACC relay : https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/2nd_accessory_relay.jpg



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 12:59 PM
if your talking about the chip in the key it doesnt have that its a standard key no chip at all and there is no factory radio in the car anymore at all either do i still need that module




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 1:14 PM
thank you for your help! with this remote start do i do the relay and connect 2nd accessory wire to the brown wire or no? also (but if the RS has an output for a 2nd IGN/ACC/START use it for the 2nd IGN and wire in a relay  for the 2nd ACC. ) basicly do i connect the wire 2nd ign wire and the relay with it? sry if it sounds stuipd just making sure im doing it right




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 1:31 PM

if i do have a passlock 2 system jsut incase will this work instead of the module ?

https://69.56.218.178/i/u/79134/i/PassLock2RelayBypass.pdf





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 8:45 PM

The Passlock II doesn't have a chip on the key anymore. It's in the column and your vehicle does have the Passlock II system in it. Don't bother with the relay bypass cause it's cheaper to go with a module and less work and IMO more reliable. Use a PLXR module and it will save you time and headaches in the end.

Most RS systems have outputs for 2nd IGN/ACC/START but they are (-) trigger to drive a relay. If your RS has these then you can use botht he 2nd ACC & IGN and wire in relays for each. If your RS has only one 2nd output then you can use it for the 2nd IGN and then wire in a relay as I stated before for the 2nd ACC.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 9:27 PM
do you have a link and price for that module and thank you for that information that was help ful lol but if you got a link to where i can buy it online and a price and would the relay bypass work for tempory use? i have plenty of relays but im only wondering and thank you for helping with this!




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 9:37 PM

with this the relay diagram you showed me before is the diagram i should use if i have both a 2nd acc and ign correct? and is it possible to draw out a diagram to kind of show me how this would be hooked up to the rs on the security system so i can make sure i understand it correctly if thats is possible of course thank you



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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 9:44 PM

xenonmatrix wrote:

do you have a link and price for that module and thank you for that information that was help ful lol but if you got a link to where i can buy it online and a price and would the relay bypass work for tempory use? i have plenty of relays but im only wondering and thank you for helping with this!

It will work for you if you use the relays. I just prefer not to use them because of time contraints on installations. A module only take me about 5 minutes to install and relays take about 20 minutes or longer. If your going to use the relays, just keep them in there and you shouldn't have any problems



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 9:54 PM
xenonmatrix wrote:

with this the relay diagram you showed me before is the diagram i should use if i have both a 2nd acc and ign correct? and is it possible to draw out a diagram to kind of show me how this would be hooked up to the rs on the security system so i can make sure i understand it correctly if thats is possible of course thank you


The diagram that I showed you before was ONLY if you have one 2nd output. If you have designated 2nd outputs for both ACC & IGN you will need to wire them up like this diagram. 



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 29, 2006 at 10:29 PM
ok well on my remote start it does have a 2nd IGN/ACC/START  so with my car the 2nd IGN would connect to the relay then the pin 30 would go to cars second IGN which is green and positive, and then the 2nd ACC would go to its relay and then pin 30 of that relay would go the car 2nd ACC which is brown positive im jsut making sure im understand this lol and thank you for taking the time with me on this! im also doing this for a college project so thats why im doing the right way!




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 8:31 AM
Yes this is that is the correct way to wire up the Monte Carlo ignition wires. Post your results or if you require more help.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 10:15 AM
im starting work on it today do you have anyidea where i can get that module online and what the price might be?




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: March 30, 2006 at 11:24 PM
with the relays it says it should have a fused 12 volts how large of a fuse would you recommend i use for it? or does it nessaryly need it?




Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: March 31, 2006 at 3:22 PM
ANY connection to a +12V source requires some type of fuse/circuit breaker/safety device. Match the draw of the device you are trying to add to the value of the fuse required. In other words, if whatever you are adding requires 20Amps, use a 20Amp fuse on the supply wire.




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 01, 2006 at 5:47 PM
hey guys another quick question on my alarm the only acc on it is  for the remote start does that wire go to the first ACC on the car which is orange or second ACC which is brown? thank you




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 01, 2006 at 5:49 PM

sry another quick question for velocity on that 2nd accessory relay diagram it says to gound out when running wire from remote starter unit what wire would connect to pin 85? thank you





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:07 AM
The wire for the ACC will go the the ORANGE wire and connect a relay for the BROWN wire.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:08 AM
The ground when running wire is the status output wire

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 9:54 AM

(The ground when running wire is the status output wire) what  wire would i use to connect that wire to on the remote start cause i need it for that relay and the bypass module ? thank you





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 10:01 AM
also on the bypass module there are four wires 12 volt ground, data bus, the ground ( starter) now it says Ground when running wire from remote starter activates Interface kit on demand. would that wire go to the starter wire on the remote start or a different wire?




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 10:04 AM
sry about the first question i worded it wrong on the second acc relay i ment to ask what wire would pin 85 connect to on the remote start/alarm thanks and sry again




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 11:09 AM

hey guys sry another quick question there is a starter kill on my alarm (orange (-) 500mA gound-when-armed output to starter killer) where would i hook that up on a monte carlo or is there relay involved





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 11:15 AM
The ground when running wire is a wire that goes to ground when the remote starter activates and looses ground after you press the brake to take over the vehicle. You never posted what system you were installing either so this would help. As far as the ground-when-armed output this is for the starter disable/kill relay that you need to wire in like this.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:07 PM
so would the break pedal input wire or the neutral safety/parking brake switch input work for that wire? and im sry bout that the alarm i have is a aftermarket generations AGA2501




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:10 PM
also on the by pass module what is the ground (starter ) wire connect to ? thank you!!!




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:19 PM

also thjs alarm has a wire on the remote start that is blue/white (-) 200mA bypass output when remote start would that work for the 2nd acc relay or the module? or both? thank you

here is a wire diagram for the alarm for the remote start

PURPLE / white - tach input
BLACK/ white - (-) neutral safety/parking brake switch input
grey/black - diesal - NOT USED
blue/white - (-) 200mA bypass output when remote start

now with this alarm is does a three relay system for you so the acc ign1 and 2 are positive outputs

red - 12v
orange - acc
IGN 1 - pink
IGN 2 - pink
start - pink

hope this helps!!!





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:24 PM
ok im almost done installing the alarm taking my time so i do it right basicly im left with what the gound out when running wire for the 2nd acc relay and also the gound(starter) wire for the bypass module hope the information i gave will help and im sry about not giving the alarm information that was my fault but at least im learning and thank you for your help velocity!! i really appericate it very much!!!




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:34 PM
well after reading some more blue/white - (-) 200mA bypass output when remote start DOES go to the ground (starter) wire for the bypass module its says thats what it is ment for so thats good now im down to the 2nd acc relay gound out when running wire and velocity basicly is sounds like this wire must have a gound when the vehicale is in park or neutral and BLACK/ white - (-) neutral safety/parking brake switch input acts as a gound until you move into the any other gear so is that the wire your talking about? thank you




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 12:41 PM
sry again for the large amount of posts just to make sure before fully connect this module what wire would the databus wire on the bypass module connect to?




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 1:02 PM

xenonmatrix wrote:

so would the break pedal input wire or the neutral safety/parking brake switch input work for that wire? and im sry bout that the alarm i have is a aftermarket generations AGA2501

No, these wires will not wor. You have  to the blue/white (-) 200mA wire

xenonmatrix wrote:

also on the by pass module what is the ground (starter ) wire connect to ? thank you!!!


What bypass module did you use again ? If it's a ground wire, just connect it to the chassis ground.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 1:07 PM

xenonmatrix wrote:

well after reading some more blue/white - (-) 200mA bypass output when remote start DOES go to the ground (starter) wire for the bypass module its says thats what it is ment for so thats good now im down to the 2nd acc relay gound out when running wire and velocity basicly is sounds like this wire must have a gound when the vehicale is in park or neutral and BLACK/ white - (-) neutral safety/parking brake switch input acts as a gound until you move into the any other gear so is that the wire your talking about? thank you

The blue/white (-) 200mA is your ground when running wire and you will need this connection for the 2ACC seeing that you have designated (+) outputs to the other ignition wires from the main harness. The nuetral safety wire for the Monte Carlo will probably be at the shifter lever. See what kind of trigger the remote start requires in order for it to activate because some vehicle output the opposite polarity for the nuetral safety wire and this causes problems and requries a relay to fix the polarity issue.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 1:16 PM

there is the module my boss got me at the bottem, so basicly the wire that i would connct the 2 acc relay (ground out when running wire) is the blue/white (-) 200mA wire correct?  and on the module what would the Gound(starter) and databus wire connect to? so that way i can make sure i have it correct also do you know where the wire would be and what color for the park and neutral switch on the monte carlo?

module
https://www.bypasskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=PLDATA&catid=3





Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 1:20 PM
on the alarm BLACK/ white - (-) neutral safety/parking brake switch input is a negtive connection is says in the book that it test for gound so for example if it was in park or neutral it will allow the car to start but when its in other gears it wont.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 2:12 PM
xenonmatrix wrote:

there is the module my boss got me at the bottem, so basicly the wire that i would connct the 2 acc relay (ground out when running wire) is the blue/white (-) 200mA wire correct?  and on the module what would the Gound(starter) and databus wire connect to? so that way i can make sure i have it correct also do you know where the wire would be and what color for the park and neutral switch on the monte carlo?

module
https://www.bypasskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=PLDATA&catid=3


The PLDATA is as simple as it gets Dude ! 4 wire hook up ( GROUND, POWER, DATA & the ground when running wire) & the data wire goes to the data wire at the diagnostics plug. Look at the diagram that it came with and also ther is no mention of a Gound(starter) wire anywhere? Where are you looking at that says this ? All I see if BLACK (-) input.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 2:36 PM
sry if it sounds like a dumb question just want to make sure im doing it right, thats the problem im having is the diagram was lost im just wondering where could i locate the diagnostics plug and what color wire it would be and also gound when running wire where that would connect to?




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 3:00 PM
sry dumb question again the ground when running connects to the blue/white bypass on the remote start sry about that! so basicly all i need assitance on is locating where the diagnostics plug is for the pass lock 2 so i can connect the databus wire and then also what color the pass lock 2 wire is on the monte carlo




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 4:13 PM

i found the manual now so that i can locate the databus connection on my car its located on the diagnostics plug on PIN 2 now i see why that manual was important!

just to make sure i i have everything right blue/white(-)200mA bypass output is the wire used for gound out when running wire for both the 2nd acc relay and module correct? then i should be complete and velocity i want to thank you for your time and patiences with me it was greatly appreicated thanks again!!!!!  





Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 4:44 PM
One more important thing is that the 200 mA output of the BLUE/WHITE wire may not be strong enough for 2 devices so what you might want to do is use a relay to boost the (-) signal of the BLUE/WHITE wire so that it will give the bypass module & the 2nd ACC a proper ground when activated. Use  this diagram to boost the signal

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 5:15 PM
ok so basicly i connect  blue/white wire to pin 85 on the relay and the 2nd acc and bypass module to pin 30 correct and thank you for that!!




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 5:17 PM
also on the alarm it has neutral safety switch input it says i can connect it to the parking brake switch so basicly that means i can connect it to the brake wire is that correct also just making sure and thanks again!!!!!!




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 5:30 PM

xenonmatrix wrote:

ok so basicly i connect  blue/white wire to pin 85 on the relay and the 2nd acc and bypass module to pin 30 correct and thank you for that!!

You connect the BLUE/WHITE wire of the RS to pin 85 and the output of pin 30 is now a stronger (-) signal to go act as the ground when running wire. You can connect as many (-) trigger devices on pin 30 as you want.



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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 02, 2006 at 5:33 PM

awesome then thats what i will do just to be safe! now the other thing i posted that will work also correct jsut making sure i ask teh expert! so i know its right!

(also on the alarm it has neutral safety switch input it says i can connect it to the parking brake switch so basicly that means i can connect it to the brake wire is that correct also just making sure and thanks again!!!!!!)





Posted By: 05impalaman
Date Posted: April 03, 2006 at 1:46 PM
I'm sure you have this system hooked up by now, and hopefully it's safe.  That neutral safety switch wire simply needs to see a ground when it is safe to start the vehicle.  This is meant to connect to a sensor that will not allow the car to start if it is in gear.  Your Monte Carlo has this feature already, so simply connect this wire through a switch to ground.  This switch can be used if the vehicle is parked in an attached garage to disable the remote starter. 

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There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those that understand binary, and those that don't.




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 03, 2006 at 5:20 PM
that is true the car already has that feature i just didnt know if i could hook that wire to the switch that is already built into the car




Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 05, 2006 at 1:21 PM
everything is working great except i cant get the parking lights to flash on the car i was wondering if there was something i was doing wrong? on my alarm it has a jumper you can set for either negaitve or positve for the parking lights and from what i saw on the sheet its positive anyideas would be greatly apprecatied!




Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: April 05, 2006 at 5:36 PM

Where did you get the parkinglights at? Did it test 12volts when you turned the parkinglights on. I have that it is BROWN / white at the headlight switch.



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Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 05, 2006 at 5:58 PM
there the same lights and they work im talking about like when you unlock or lock the car or if you set off the alarm they dont flash or anything and i connected the wire im just unsure if there was a relay of some type or if there is something else that was supposed to be connected




Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 8:32 AM
I'm betting your alrm/remote start has a positive output for park lights I would check and make sure its pulsing 12 volts when you lock and unlock.  I am not sure with programming fetures on this unit  but I woulod check and make sure that its not programmed to not flash. just some ideas.

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Posted By: xenonmatrix
Date Posted: April 06, 2006 at 4:54 PM

thats what i started to check i finally found out the car needs a relay for the parking lights and all i have to do is attach the relay and it should be fine i will try it tmorrow






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