aladdin 2000 in civic
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Topic: aladdin 2000 in civic
Posted By: 94civicex
Subject: aladdin 2000 in civic
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 2:58 PM
alright the remote starter in my 1994 honda civic won't work .the lghts on the dash lights up, but it doesn't turn over. i was thinking that there is either a starter interrupt still hooked up from the previous alarm that was in the car. also on the vehicle wiring diagrams show that there are four wires on the steering cloumn(ignition, starter, heater/ a/c, 12+volt) on my car there is another wire making a total of 5 wires. i'm thinking that my car has a second heater/ a/c, starter or ignition wire. should i follow the diagram on the instruction to hook it up with a relay whether it is a 2nd starter, heater/ a/c or ignition wire or should i just leave it alone.
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Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 2:59 PM
also on the vehicle wiring diagrams it shows that the yellow wire is the accesory wire and on my car it isn't. actually the WHITE/ blk wire is the accesory. this wire(wht/blkl) is my fifth mystery wire.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 3:17 PM
tommorow i'll check the wires on the steering column and let you know which one they are acc, ign,starter, constant 12+volt and let you know in what position they have 12+volts in.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 3:52 PM
velcity have you ever had any problems that the remote start wouldn't work on this alarm and if so how did you fix it. i'm trying to find some ideas that may help me figure it out.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 11:23 PM
- make sure that the clutch activation circuit is functional
- make sure that all ignition wires are getting 12 volts when RS
- make sure that the sequence is performed properly when remote starting a manual
- try this: get in the car and place system into READY MODE to start . Make sure that you have your foot pressing on the clutch and try to start the car. The system has to be ARMED in order for the RS to start.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 03, 2003 at 11:29 PM
- The YELLOW wire IS your ACC wire. Strip back the insulation and give this wire 12 volts + while the fan motor is on high. This should engage the fan motor when you place the jumper wire on this YELLOW wire.
- BLACK / YELLOW wire is your ignition wire and when you jumper 12 volts to this wire you should have your dash lights turn on ( just the little red & GREEN/ YELLOW lights, not your parking lights )
- BLACK/ WHITE is your starter wire and if you jumper this wire you will turn over your starter.
- WHITE wire is the 12 volts constant... this will register 12 volts with a DMM or the light will turn on with a light tester grounded to the frame
These wires are the same for all the Honda's and Acuras that I have sone int he past. I have done hundreds of these cars and they are the same for all. Unless the car's ignition harness was replaced at the dealership under warranty work.... this should hold true for the 1994 Civic you have. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 04, 2003 at 9:32 AM
what is the wht/blk wire then? isn't the acc the first position on the ignition cylinder.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 04, 2003 at 1:36 PM
also what do ou mean by the clutch activation circuit? also don't you need a wire to have power in the acc position(firts position on ignition) because if i take the pink wire on the alarm and hook up it up to the yellow hvac wire the pink wire will only get power when the key is turned to the ign position(second position on ign) i need the pink wire to have power from an acc wire so when i program the system. this is confusing, when they acc in the book does that mean to turn the key until the lights on the dash come on or just turn it so that the radio and other accesories come on.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 04, 2003 at 4:53 PM
WHITE/ BLACK wire is not used for anything on the RS unit. Disregard this wire completely. The clutch activation wire is for vehicles that have a (-) clutch activation or used to engage a relay to convert to a (+) signal for the clutch. Without this wire there's no clutch activation and this means no start on the Civic. The ACC wire is only the HVAC controls and the IGN wire is when all the lights on the dash go on. The PINK wire is only an ACC wire that tells the system when to engage this wire. The Aladdin has an option that you can have the HVAC avtivate from 0 seconds to 5 minutes after start.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 04, 2003 at 7:09 PM
i never hooked up a wire to the clutch. which wire from the alarm do i hook up to the car and which wire from the car.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 04, 2003 at 7:24 PM
so basically i hook up the blue(p6) and pink(p10) wire to the yellow hvac wire. i hok up the blue wire to a wire that has 12+v when key is in ign. the yellow wire goes to a wire that has 12+v when key is in ign + start. the white goes to a wire that has 12+v when key is in start. and the red + RED / wht goes to a constant 12+v source.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 9:22 AM
Hook up the following wires ( any other way will make the Aladdin shutdown the car within 2 seconds of disarm ): - Aladdin Color( P6 ) : Civic Color
- Red : WHITE wire
- RED / White : WHITE wire
- White : BLACK /WHITE
- YELLOW : BLACK / YELLOW
- Blue : YELLOW ( ALSO CONNECT THE P10 WIRE HERE )
- Black : GROUND
I can't really tell you more clearly on how to wire this up other than this !! Wire it up as I have above and bypass the clutch activation. Clutch Bypass Diagram <> On most vehicles that have manual transmissions, the clutch must first be depressed in order to start the vehicle. This ensures that the unit does not attempt to start the vehicle while the transmission is in gear. When installing a remote car starter that is designed for manual transmissions, you will need to bypass the clutch pedal if it must first be depressed when starting the vehicle with the key. There are two types of starting systems on manual transmission vehicles that require the clutch pedal to be depressed before starting. The first is simple and very easily bypassed. This type of system simply runs the start wire from the key switch to a open-close switch at the back of the clutch pedal. <> Caution! Ensure vehicle is in neutral and that the emergency brake is set before testing wires at the clutch pedal! <> To identify if this is the system used on your vehicle, you will need to find the switch located on the back or top of the clutch pedal. On the switch you will find two wires. (Note on vehicles that have cruise control, there will probably be two switches on the clutch pedal. Use only the one that acts as described in this paragraph.) One of the wires will measure +12 volts only when the key is in the "start" position. The second wire will measure +12 volts when the clutch is depressed and the key is in the "start" position. Use the diagram above if this is the type of clutch system the vehicle employs. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 9:51 AM
so when i find out what the polarity of the clutch wire is which wire would i hook up to it. on the diagram its not clear on which wire to use.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 9:58 AM
i don't really understand your directions. alright one of the wires will measure +12 volts when the key is in start and the other wire will measure12+ volts when the key is in start and the clutch is pressed. so which wire would i hook up the clutch bypass wire( the one that has 12+volts in start or 12+volts in start and clutch pressed down) and what what wire from the alarm.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:06 AM
If the wire is a (+) use the WHITE P9 wire and reverse the polarity of the wire by using the diagram 4 on page 19 of the installation manual. Pin 30 will go to the target wire that you find on the Civic. If it does not have cruise you will only have one switch. If the wire is a (-) wire, then wire the P9 WHITE wire straight to the target wire. The second wire will measure +12 volts when the clutch is depressed and the key is in the "start" position The above statement pretty much sums up the characteristics of the target wire. Use this wire. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:17 AM
which wire thought the hot side or the cold side of the clutch
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:18 AM
when you installed this is a civic was the wire a - or +.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:44 AM
Use your DMM to find this out. To identify if this is the system used on your vehicle, you will need to find the switch located on the back or top of the clutch pedal. On the switch you will find two wires. (Note on vehicles that have cruise control, there will probably be two switches on the clutch pedal. Use only the one that acts as described in this paragraph.) One of the wires will measure +12 volts only when the key is in the "start" position. The second wire will measure +12 volts when the clutch is depressed and the key is in the "start" position. Use the diagram above if this is the type of clutch system the vehicle employs. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:49 AM
i know that but which wire do i use to hook up the clutch bypass wire to. the wire that has 12+ volts when the key is in start and the clutch is pressed or is it the wire that has 12+ volts when the is in start.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 11:09 AM
.................wire will measure +12 volts when the clutch is depressed and the key is in the "start" position.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 11:21 AM
tell me if i'm wrong or right. if the wire shows 12+ vlots(when clutch is depressed and key is in start) then that means i have to use a realy to change polarity of the white wire on the p9 harness. and if the wire was to show 12- volts then that means i hook up the p9 wire straight to it or vice versa.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 11:25 AM
yes ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 12:59 PM
alright i went outside and i saw a black wire with silver dots and ablue/blk wire with silver dots. these were the wires. what was funny was hen i was checking the blu/black wire. i put the test light to the wire and i put the key in start and the car started up without pressing the clutch. is this the wire thats supposed to have the p9 white wie hooked up to it. i guessed it started up because i grounded it. does this mean that all i have to do now is hook up the wire on the p9 harness or do i have to turn it to a positive charge with a erlay. i tried to hook up the white wire to the blu/blk wire, but nothing happened. then i disconnected the white wire and took the blu/blk clutch wire and grounded it and the car started up with the remote start, the i went back in the car took the blu/blk where i grouded it from and hokoed up the white p9 wire and tried to remote start it and nothing happened. (remember every time i opened the door i re-did the remote start procedure). let me know what to do from now.
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 7:06 PM
i tried all four different ways and nothig happened. i tried the blu/blk wire with the p9 wire giving a - source and nothing happened, then i tried the black wire with the - p9 wire and nothing hapened. then i hooked up the relay and tried both wires again and still nothing happened. then i took a wire with a aligator clip at the end and connected the aligator clip to the blu/blk wire and squeezed it so it can make contact with the wire and grounded the wire and tired the remote start and it work perfect. the only problem is now you don't have to even press the clutch to start the car. have you ever installed a aladdin 2000 remote with remote start ina civic and if so how did you hook up the clutch bypass? was the clutch target wire - or+ and what color was it?
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 05, 2003 at 10:14 PM
Did you program the P9 wire yet to do START ASSIST ??
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 06, 2003 at 3:37 PM
no how do you do this? also the heater/ a/c doesn't come on when i remote start the car only when i put the key in ign. could not programming the wire cause this? Thanks for all your help
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 06, 2003 at 11:17 PM
Check the programming instructions. It tells you all this information there on how to program the P9 wire and also the HVAC control timer is defaulted at 5 minutes after start up. You will need to change that to 0 seconds after start.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 07, 2003 at 1:10 PM
alright i just programmed it to use the white p9 as a start assist wire and everything is working fine and i also programmed the time for heater/a/c. there only one thing though and that is the heater comes on and off. like it'll come on for 2-3 secs then go off and come back on. is this normal. but other than that its working perfect. thanks for all the info and for your time.
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 07, 2003 at 11:42 PM
Are you sure you used the right wire for the HVAC from the alarm ? It sounds like you attached the light output wire to the HVAC wire ? Check the BLUE wire on the P6 harness and make sure that the voltage is a consistent 12 volts.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: 94civicex
Date Posted: January 08, 2003 at 11:24 AM
my bad, it was just the light that were flashing inside the car(dash light, courtesy light,etc...) and i thought that the heater was going on and off but its all set and i'm finally done with this alarm. thanks
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 09, 2003 at 9:02 AM
No problemo
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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