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1998 Dodge Caravan, alarm/remote start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 7:26 PM


Topic: 1998 Dodge Caravan, alarm/remote start

Posted By: nightowl2
Subject: 1998 Dodge Caravan, alarm/remote start
Date Posted: April 27, 2006 at 10:29 PM

I'm installing a remote start car alarm and I am to the point where I am trying to find the door lock/unlock wire in the the drivers kick panel. I can't find the WHITE/ DK Green wire.



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Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: April 27, 2006 at 10:43 PM
|       POWER LOCK|WHITE/ green        |*2 |left plug at bottom of fuse |
|     POWER UNLOCK|same wire           |*2 |box under cover (1 of 3)    |


*2 Use relays and set up for negative trigger. Place a 4020 ohm resistor inline on the lock output, and a 665 ohm resistor inline on the unlock output. If you do not have a factory security system use a 1500 ohm for lock and a 250 ohm for unlock.




Posted By: bmwpwner
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 1:02 AM
on most of the one i've done there is a bcm box on the firewall inside the vehicle and the wire is there. look on one of the bottom plugs and you should be able to find it. good luck and hope this helps.

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Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 4:56 PM
Ok, I posted earlier about a problem and got the answer to that question. Now I have another problem, actually 2. I am installing a Crimestopper Security remote start on a 1998 Dodge Caravan and the first question is about the other question I asked earlier. The question I asked earlier was about where the door lock wire was. Thanks to the answers I recieved, I found it. Now, I can't get it to work with the alarm. I can make it work with a test wire that I made with the proper resistors in place but can't get them to work when I install them on the van. The alarm is a CS-2016FM. I am to connect the blue wire to unlock with a 4020Ohm resistor and the green wire to the same wire with a 665Ohm resistor. Both can be within10% of that number and I am within the 10% with 4000 and 680. Like I said ealier this works with my test wire but not when I actually wire up the alarm. The second question I have is the wire to disarm the factory alarm doesn't disarm when remote started. Is there something I can check? The wire on the alarm is ORANGE / Black and the wire to disarm the factory alarm is WHITE/ Red at the BCM. Is there something I missed? I just read what I typed. I wrote that backwards. The blue wire with the 665Ohm resistor is the unlock and the Green wire with the 4000 Ohm is the lock. That is how it is wired.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 5:46 PM
Would this work or be worth trying? The 3 pin Red wire is 12V from the alarm for relays.
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Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 5:59 PM
That worked!




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 6:05 PM
I hit the post reply to quick. It worked for the door locks. I'm still needing help with the alarm disarm. I'm going to try the same thing for that.




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 6:06 PM

You probably need a stronger Ground Pulse on your Lock & Unlock.  You will have to use 2 Relays.

OMEGA makes a Dual Relay Pack that has the Resistors Built in. Omega # DLR-U



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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 6:27 PM
That didn't work for the factory alarm disarm. I have the alarm wire wired to the wire harness on the van to the WHITE/ Red at the BCM. Is that the correct wire? That is the one I am told to use on the wiring diagram. I have already found one wrong wire on the disc but it was corrected on the web. I just went and looked at my diagram on the disc and on the web. They both show a different wire for the factory alarm disarm. I am starting to loose faith in that disc I bought.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 6:57 PM
I have found 4 different wiring digrams for the same vehicle. All on this forum and my disc. I bought the disc from www.12voltresource.com and I don't  know which one is the correct one. I know that the one on the disc doesn't work but going like that will not work. If I just go into the wire harness trying wires till something works will end up frying something. Does anyone actually know what wire is for the factory alarm disarm? And will I need a relay or not?




Posted By: mo12v
Date Posted: April 28, 2006 at 7:46 PM
Been a while since I did one,
Try:
Chassis Ground Thru A 665 Ohm Resistor On WHITE/ Green wire To Disarm OEM Alarm.


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MO

Don't Learn from Others Mistakes
You Might Be the One That Knows.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 29, 2006 at 1:38 PM
That doesn't work.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 29, 2006 at 2:04 PM
Ok, everyone listen up....LEARN from my mistake! Don't get agravated! If you do, walk away till you calm down. Then go back and double check what you are doing. mo12v, thanks for the info. It did work, I was using the wrong resitor. I realized it because the doors were trying to lock when I was remote starting. I was trying to use the 4020 Ohm resistor, OOOPS!!!




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 29, 2006 at 3:40 PM
New problem. I have been trying to install this alarm on my dad's van and now everything works except about 1 minute after alarm set, the pre warn goes off. When this happens, I can open the door and it will not set  off the alarm. I can open the door prior to this and it will set off the alarm. This is on a 1998 Caravan and the alarm is a CrimeStopper CS2016FM. Any idea's as to what is causing this? I have adjusted the pre-warn to the least amount of senativity all the way to the most amount. Also, I thought the lights staying on after the door is closed could be causing this, but they go out sooner. The 2 way paging remote is showing the doors are being opened and pre-warn on the shock sensor.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: April 29, 2006 at 4:06 PM
I read the manual about the 2-way pager and all the things that it will desplay. I am getting "Door Open" warning but none of the doors are open. Everything else works correctly. I noticed that if I open the door before this pre-warn, the alarm will go off. If I open it after this pre-warn, I can open it without the alarm going off.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: May 07, 2006 at 1:19 PM
I'm having a problem trying to find the door trigger on a 1998 Dodge Caravan, actually I realized that it is a Chrysler Town and Country but all the wiring diagrams show the same wire for the door trigger. It says BROWN / white but I can't find it at the BCM. Am I looking in the wrong place?




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: May 07, 2006 at 1:43 PM
I'm using the BROWN / green like it says to do on the cd I bought from 12volt resource. Online it shows BROWN / white, and the cd shows BROWN / green. I don't see the BROWN / white and the BROWN / green doesn't work.




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: May 07, 2006 at 2:53 PM
Ok, I might have found the wire. The diagram says"BROWN / White wire Lower right Gray Connector at Fuse Panel". I belive it is in that exact spot. I was looking at the 2 plugs UNDER the BCM. The plug I'm looking now is ABOVE the BCM. I'll try that wire and post back. 




Posted By: nightowl2
Date Posted: May 07, 2006 at 3:02 PM
That is the wire. It is ABOVE the BCM and fuse panel. I'm making a note of that for later.





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