98 Camry VIP RS3000 & Viper 150ESP

The easier thing to do is that you remove the factory alarm system.   The Toyota alarm system is all molex plugs.  You can remove those plugs and they are double ended plugs.  One plugs to the alarm system side and other to factory plugs side.  It takes about three to five minutes to remove the VIP RS3000.  Good luck.

Any idea where it (the main module/the brain) might be?  Once I find the brain, it should be easy to follow the wire trail and get the glass brakage sensor.  I'm not quite sure if I can re-use the factory status LED or not.  I've looked everywhere on the web and no-one has any info on this VIP RS3000. 

Basically, I'm trying to avoid redundant wiring since the factory alarm has starter kill, door lock/unlock, ignition on - door lock, ignition off - door unlock, interior dome light control, and parking light control circuitry already.  If I know what each wire does, I think it would save some time to find all the wires and re-wire them again. 

Thanks.

The VIP systems are installed after production by the dealer or distributor, so component location isn't always the same.  But if you pry out the large black panel to the left of the steering column, the panel with the power mirror switch....the brain is usually tied up behind there.  None that I've seen have a true starter kill, although the alarm will trigger if a start-attempt is made without a key in the ignition.

At any rate, though, you may not have to remove it.  Go out to your car and conduct a few tests, and we'll see what you can and can't do.

Before you begin, be aware of how the "Security" light functions:  When you properly arm the system, the light comes on steady for thirty seconds....your car is actually not protected during this time.  After the thirty seconds is up, the light begins to flash slowly; the car is now actually armed.

First, close the car and set the alarm with the remote; leave it alone for at least a minute.  Next, use the key (NOT the remote) in the door, to unlock and open the car.....did the alarm go off?  If not, this means you can disarm the system without the remote; this is good.

Now, close the door and use the key to lock it----does the alarm arm?  If so, that's more good news.

Third test:  Sit inside the car and arm the alarm.  Wait thirty seconds until the light starts flashing.  Now, stick the key in the ignition and try to start the car-----does it start?  Does the alarm sound?

Generally speaking, all of the VIP systems can be easily disarmed during remote start---you just have to activate the key sense wire, tricking the system into thinking a proper key has been inserted.  And some, but not all, of the systems can be armed and disarmed by triggering the wires that come off the door key cylinder.  Post back with the results of your tests, and I'll help you keep the system in place if it's at all possible.

The test results:

1. Close the doors and arm the system with the remote; use key to open the door - that triggered the alarm system. 

2. Close the doors and lock them with the key from the driver side - it does not arm the alarm system.

3. Sit inside the car; close all the doors; arm the system with remote; wait thirty seconds or until the security status LED starts blinking and then start the car with the key in the ignition - yes it disarms the alarm system and started the car.

It seems like the keysense signal can be use to disarm the VIP RS3000.  H2/2 light GREEN/ black (-) factory security disarm and H3/1 blue (-) 200mA factory security rearm from Viper 150ESP can be used to disarm and rearm VIP RS3000.  Am I on the right track?  If so, how should the wire connection be?

It would be nice to know wire color, location, and how to get to the wire (undo four screws, open this cover, that cover, etc.)

Thanks a bunch.

Is anyone out there?

Please help.

Thanks.

Well, I don't know why you are spending so much time to bypass the factory VIP RS3000.  I removed 6 of this factory alarm system from Toyota 4 Runner and Camry.  It just take you 3 to 5 minutes to remove it from the vehicle.  VIP RS3000 is a dealer install alarm system and every locations is different.  It comes with factory double end plugs.  Everytime, I started at the Ignitions switch and unplug it then follow the harness to remove it from the vehicle.  The VIP RS3000 has around 6 double end plugs.  Once you unpluged all the plugs than you should find the alarm system.  The alarm same times located under the driver's dash or under driver's seat.

Good luck

If you wants to keep the VIP RS3000, it's easier to find the alarm brain and test it at the brain.  VIP RS3000 is dealer installed and not factory install.  It will not have arm and disarm wire from the key lock switch on the door.  The keysense doesn't disarm the alarm system when VIP RS3000 sees Ignition is on and it automatically disarm the alarm system.  Most factory alarm system doesn't have starter disable, too.

Use your blue "status" or blue/black "third ignition" wire from the DEI piece to the keysense wire; this will allow the VIP system to always disarm during remote start.

Here's a way I just thought of to disarm the VIP system while unlocking.....I haven't tried this before, but I think it will work:

Take your DEI's unlock wire and send it to a relay to make a negative pulse when the button is pressed (there are plenty of relay explanations on this site to help you with this).  Use three diodes attatched to the relay's output.....now you have in your hand three wires, that are each isolated from each other, that each make a negative pulse when you press "unlock" on your DEI remote.

Send one of these to the car's unlock wire, as usual.  Send the next to the car's keysense wire.  Send the third to the DEI's satellite relay pack.......see the little thin pink wire?  This is a negative trigger from the remote starter, that tells the ignition relays to turn on.........tie your wire in here.

Now you'll have a setup where every time you press "unlock" on your DEI remote, three things happen:  The doors open, the keysense wire sees a signal, and the ignition in the car fires up.......all for exactly one second and then it stops.........this should serve to disarm the VIP alarm nicely.  (TIP:  For your particular install, the DEI's orange accessory wire is not needed, as it only powers up the radio........remove this relay from the relay pack and make use of it for your unlock/disarm trick....instead of going out to buy one.)

Oh, and you may notice that the DEI's unlock wire already puts out a ground, and you're wondering why you need the relay.  The DEI's output is most likely not strong enough to run three things at the same time......maybe two, but three is unlikely.  Using the relay to make the ground will ensure that you don't have trouble, and that you don't burn out the DEI's output.

As far as arming the VIP system, I think the only way to do it is to use the Toyota remote.  You could always open up the remote, solder wires to its circuit board, and use a relay triggered by the Viper to activate the Toyota remote........it's something to think about if you like working with this stuff......but it's probably more effort than it's worth.

Or, if you don't need the alarm too badly, you can remove it as 10nesne1 said.  Or just leave it in place but only use it when you park in dangerous areas.

  i am going to be doing an 2003 or 2002 rav-4 with the same vip alarm in it.  chris would  i do the sam thing to the rav-4  as you stated to do the the camry,   and any info on how to disarm the vip while remote start, customer has already been to  best buy and they cant get it to work.

 also  how would i go about bypasssing it so we no longer us the vip alarm?

 thanks in advance to all who  reply

Well, first make the tests mentioned above-----there's always the chance that it's a factory-installed alarm.  If it is, then using the proper lock/unlock wires will get it to arm/disarm just fine.

Exactly what you'll have to do will depend on how your tests turn out..........but does the customer actually care about the alarm anymore?

If they don't care, I'd suggest two different options, depending on how much you're charging them...

1.  If it is indeed an alarm that was installed after the car was made, completely remove the entire system and its harnesses, as 10nesne1 says.  This normally takes me around 10 minutes or so if no one else has worked on the car. 

However, the Best Buy installers may have made some of their connections at the VIP harness, rather than on the factory Toyota harness.  If this is the case, allow extra time/money to disconnect these splices and move them onto the Toyota harness.

2.  If the customer is cheap:  Hook up keyless entry.  Hook up to the keysense wire, so that the alarm will NEVER go off under remote start.  Tell the customer not to touch the VIP remote ever again-----but to keep it in the glove box, in case they somehow trigger the alarm and are too stupid/forgetful to insert the key in the ignition to disarm it.

Note that in all cases, Toyota remotes don't work with the motor running.  I suppose you could find the ignition input into the VIP system, and interrupt it under remote start..........this would keep the VIP working, but the customer would still have to carry two remotes.

The new rav 4 can be armed/disarmed with an aftermarket remote - the wires are blue/wht for arm/lock and blue for disarm/unlock.  This will only unlock the driver's door.  Second unlock press within 5 sec will do other doors, or use trunk output from aftermarket remote to trigger the blue / YELLOW wire

all of these wires are in the driver's kick panel

by the way - all of the pre-99 toyotas have starter kill relays, and cannot be controlled from aftermarket remotes.  after 99, the key could control these alarms, and therefore, so can we.

on the 98 camry, it is possible to interface somewhat.

let me know if you need more info.

thanks for all your  quick replys, will let ya know how it goes when i do the car

 thanks again