viper 791 ground when armed wire gone bad

nice, now for the starter kill.... ive seen other posts where they suggest using the siren output... but i donno.. does the siren output go off as soon as ignition is turned? id prefer another negative signal like the status output, so i can save myself from using a billion relays.  currently i have the two starter relays hooked up to a push button that closes the starter circuit.. for now

if i do the anti grind, ill hook up the negative status output to the relays that i have on the push button, would i be able to use another negative signal on the same set of relays for the starter kill?

its the viper 791xv remote start system, so it doesnt have the typical relay starter kill with the black and green.  the starter kill is built into the remote start satellite.  my truck has two starter wires, so i have one connected through that remote start satellite and the other relayed along with the the first so they're both cut when the alarm is on.  after trying just about everything im going to call directed tomorrow and get my brain exchanged, i just wanted to see if there was anyway to avoid the hastle of mailing it in and waiting for a new one.

thanks everyone who posted though!

well my truck has two starter wires.. the xcrs only has connections for one starter wire.. so without a relay on the other one... 12 volts still goes through the second even though the first is cut off, so it still engages.  when i said i tried changing the relay to test, i meant i tried using another set (2) of relays for those two starter wires (after giving up on the onboard starter kill), aside from the xcrs.  i checked the anti grind, and its set to ON.  we've had a few dei brains go bad at work from customers cars, but none in this manner.  we just pull the brains out and have the customer ship it to dei.  they usually get their stuff back within a week.. dei has great customer service.  i just had relays on the starter wires since i didnt want to deal with shipping it out, but now i want to add a motion sensor to roll up my windows when the alarm is armed incase anyone comes too close, but i need that ground when armed wire.

i added the relay starter kill to starter wire 2 because it was still engaging the starter even if wire 1 was cut.

i added a relay starter kill to starter wire 1 because the 791xv wasnt cutting the starter on its own for some reason.

then i hid a push button to engage the relays..

hurleyloser wrote:

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we've had a few dei brains go bad at work from customers cars, but none in this manner.  we just pull the brains out and have the customer ship it to dei.  they usually get their stuff back within a week.. dei has great customer service. 

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I have a 2002 Nissan Froniter Crew Cab.  I've had it installed for over a year now.  It was installed by someone else, along with window roll ups.  The starter kill never worked, the guy who put it in told me it might have been a faulty brain.  The ground when armed DID work because I just remembered that he had that hooked up to the ground when armed wire, so the windows would roll up upon arming.  I re checked everything a few weeks later and found the second starter wire.

He had left that wire entirely alone.  I know that that wire starts the truck also because i cut the first starter wire as a test, and sure enough the starter cranked with just the 2nd wire hooked up.  I cut them both and the starter didn't crank that time.  So at that time I wired up relays and switched the window roll up to the channel two aux, because i didn't like the windows rolling up everytime i armed the alarm, there are times when i like to leave them cracked a bit, and this was preventing me from doing that having my alarm armed.  im going to try to put the window module back on the ground when armed wire later today and see if theres any resonse.