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93 mazda 929, bulldog 62I

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 4:50 AM


Topic: 93 mazda 929, bulldog 62I

Posted By: rock1
Subject: 93 mazda 929, bulldog 62I
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 12:57 AM

Im trying to install the dome light supervison on a 93 mazda 929 and the the alarm is a bulldog 62I.
How do you install the relay to get the dome supervison to work? I have a relay. the door tigger wire was connected to the door tigger wire on the alarm harness.



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Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 10:09 AM
i dont see a dome on that car. do you even have a light in that car. i look a 2 wire guides and it was blank.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 10:17 AM
The alarm has a wire for that




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 9:16 PM
well yea "most" alarms have a wire for that, that dotn mean your car does.
Does you car have a doem light that turns on when you open a door. even if it dotn coem on with the door if you have a light you may be able to do it, jsut need to fidn out waht wires to use etc.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 9:34 PM
The wiring chart shows to use door trigger. so I guess thats whats called the dome light. when you open the door the light comes on.




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 9:44 PM
hey if your chart show it, i donnt see it on DEI list and code systems




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 9:51 PM
it shows door tigger and it has light when the door is open. I already connected a wire to that trigger wire from the alarm.




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 9:59 PM
if it say ues door trigger then use that wire. to wire relay
85 wire form alarm
86 to 12 volt
87 to ground
30 to wire in car.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 10:03 PM
so the 30 on the relay shares the same wire that the door trigger is connected to from the alarm? cause I connected the door pin trigger from the alarm to the door trigger on the car.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 10:22 PM
The relay setup I was told to use was
85 to 12 volt
86 to wire from alarm
87 to wire in car
30 to ground

but you have it diffent? your
86 is 12volt
85 I got is 12volt
is this cause of the relay type?




Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: July 18, 2006 at 11:54 PM
it dotn matter which way they are both correct. just need to see how a relay will work.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 20, 2006 at 11:43 PM
ohh ok . my 30 shows ground but ur 87 is ground. so you mean if its reversed u connected it that way.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 20, 2006 at 11:50 PM
Do you connect the 12volt for the relay to the main power on the ignition harness or to the main power that connects to the alarm that wire then connects to the ignition harness.that wire got a fuse on it




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: July 26, 2006 at 10:48 PM
What about the horn output do you need a relay? I cant find the horn output what to do now?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 07, 2006 at 8:28 PM
what do you do if you cant find the horn wire?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 21, 2006 at 11:48 PM
hitech alarm goes off when armed when opening doors but when I armed it while in the car and released the dome light wire the alarm does not go off why is that.
this is on a 92 mazda 929.




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: August 22, 2006 at 1:25 AM
You mean you sit in the car....arm the unit...and turn the dome light on and the alrm doesn't go off? BUT, it does go off when you open the door? I don't see the problem?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 22, 2006 at 6:48 AM
so when the car is armed and you open the door from the outside it goes off. but when I arm it while im inside the car and I push the dome light button on the door to make the domelight turn off and if I release the button the lights comes on but the alarm does not sound off. I thought the alarm is detected by the dome light?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 22, 2006 at 10:26 PM
when arming the alarm siren is low I can still hear it chirp but its very low. and it goes off without any problem but its low with no crackling sound from the siren what happen?




Posted By: steiny83
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 12:10 AM
Check your ground. I had the same problem and it turned out it was a crappy ground leading to the brain. But be sure to check the brain's ground, the siren's ground. Check all positive connections, too.




Posted By: INSTALLER_MSS
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 12:42 AM
it's the ground.  check the brains ground and the siren ground.  make sure the paint, dirt, etc. is removed to the bare metal where you ground both grounds and make sure the screw/bolt is tight but not stripped out.  but it is definitely the ground




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 8:35 AM
I will check.
how do you know if the siren is bad?




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 8:54 AM
"how do you know if the siren is bad?"

When there is no sound coming out of it.posted_image

Very easily, applying full + and - to the siren and seeing how it sound is a very good indication of the condition of your siren.    

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Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.posted_image




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 9:34 AM
I checked the siren and the ground was clean the siren has some water and after draining it out the siren is loud again.




Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 9:36 AM
Depends if its current sensing or not. It goes off when you open it because its probably wired off the door triggers, therefore detecting that the door is open.

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Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 11:34 AM
but on my car it says the dome light is the door trigger.
92 mazda 929




Posted By: Cameronjc
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 2:54 PM

I think your a bit confused.

The doors are wiried to your dome light, when your doors open, the light turns on. The alarm trigger is connected to the switch on the doors, so that when the doors open, the alarm will know and be triggered.

The wire the alarm connects on the doors is the same one that activates the dome light.

The wiring your dome light switch uses to turn the dome light is different and will not cause the alarm to sound.





Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 3:24 PM
so if you open the door and the alarm goes off and the light comes on thats ok but if thats the wire that makes the alarm goes off how come it does not sound off when I press the door triger button down intill the dome light turns off and then arming the alarm while the door is open I then release the triger button and the dome light comes on but the alarm does not know if the door opened.




Posted By: Cameronjc
Date Posted: August 23, 2006 at 11:58 PM

I was not your installer so I do not know how your installer did your system. You should ask them. In most cases it's pretty standard that the alarm is connected to the pre-existing door switch. Perhaps your installer installed a seperate one, or did a crappy install. Possibilities are endless.

Go to the installer and talk with them about it. If it's a factory alarm, go to the dealer and ask about it. If you bought the car with the alarm, go to the store, buy a new alarm and the shop install it for you.





Posted By: mercury2006
Date Posted: August 25, 2006 at 1:35 AM
have you been trying to scare fish into giving up using your alarm?

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Ive got grey knews for you its niether good nor bad.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: August 25, 2006 at 8:10 AM
Not the siren ground, the ground for the alarm brain itself.

When the alarm brain's connection to ground goes bad, it will try to pull ground through other connections, such as the domelight, horn, or ignition wires......with limited success.

So generally, if the alarm is otherwise installed correctly, but the brain isn't grounded, it'll still often work well enough to lock/unlock the doors, but with very weak siren sound, as you describe.




Posted By: raab3485
Date Posted: August 27, 2006 at 12:07 AM
I would recommend re-locating your siren. I always install them so that the "horn" is pointing down, that way no water can get inside of it and pool up.




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 27, 2006 at 10:28 AM
How do you get the headlights to flash with the parking lights when the alarm is going off?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: August 28, 2006 at 11:00 PM
when adding a second siren can you just tap into the siren wire from the first siren?




Posted By: rock1
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 12:47 PM
why is the starter wire on the ignition harness reading negative zero in all postions except when cranking it reads
about 3.4 volts I never show it jump to 12 volts what happen?





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