2006 civic si OEM ground when armed wire?

I have a 2006 civic si
I would like to install a window roll up module and im looking for a ground when armed wire on the OEM alarm.

any one know where it is (if there is one)?

There isn't one.  What you can do is this.  Take 2 relays, and wire up like this.

Relay 1

85 - Ground
86 - Ignition Switched +12v   Blue
87a - Ground
30 - Output to relay 2

Relay 2
85 - Input from relay 1
86 - Lock motor wire    Blue
87 - Ground
30 - This is you ground when armed output to your window module

What will happen is with the ignition off, when you lock the car it will trigger relay 2 which will pulse your window controller and it will roll up.  If the ignition is on and you lock the door, the window will not activate.

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wow, that is realy clever.

do you have any tricks for the roll down with the stock remote?

cntrylvr79 wrote:

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There isn't one.  What you can do is this.  Take 2 relays, and wire up like this.

Relay 1

85 - Ground
86 - Ignition Switched +12v   Blue
87a - Ground
30 - Output to relay 2

Relay 2
85 - Input from relay 1
86 - Lock motor wire    Blue
87 - Ground
30 - This is you ground when armed output to your window module

What will happen is with the ignition off, when you lock the car it will trigger relay 2 which will pulse your window controller and it will roll up.  If the ignition is on and you lock the door, the window will not activate.

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Problem with this setup is most window modules require a longer ground to roll the windows up all the way. If you are using a DEI 530T, your windows will roll up about 2 inches.

look in relay section, the above diagram can have a longer length of ground w/ a capacitor.

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JWorm] wrote:

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QUOTE=cntrylvr79]

There isn't one.  What you can do is this.  Take 2 relays, and wire up like this.

Relay 1

85 - Ground
86 - Ignition Switched +12v   Blue
87a - Ground
30 - Output to relay 2

Relay 2
85 - Input from relay 1
86 - Lock motor wire    Blue
87 - Ground
30 - This is you ground when armed output to your window module

What will happen is with the ignition off, when you lock the car it will trigger relay 2 which will pulse your window controller and it will roll up.  If the ignition is on and you lock the door, the window will not activate.

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Problem with this setup is most window modules require a longer ground to roll the windows up all the way. If you are using a DEI 530T, your windows will roll up about 2 inches.[/QUOTE]

I knew I forgot to mention something.  If you find with that setup the windows aren't rolling up all then way, then what you can do is replace relay #2 with a DEI pluse timer relay p/n 528t. Wire that up like so.

Red - Constant
Black - Input from relay #1
BLACK/ white - Lock motor wire
Yellow - Ground
Brown - This is the ground when armed output to your window module.
Cut the blue loop in half and tape up the ends
Set the dial at about the 12 oclock position

As for the window rolldown with the stock remote, I'll have to get back to you, I know I have a diagram at work on how to do it, I just have to find it.  The only reason I suggest using a 528t instead of a capacitor is because if you need to extend the trigger for any length of time the cap you'll need will start to get rediculouly large.  to put it in prospective a 1 farad cap will keep a standard bosch relay activated for between 15 and 20 seconds.

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First Class Certi-fried installer

cntrylvr79 wrote:

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JWorm] wrote:

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QUOTE=cntrylvr79]

There isn't one. What you can do is this. Take 2 relays, and wire up like this.

Relay 1

85 - Ground
86 - Ignition Switched +12v   Blue
87a - Ground
30 - Output to relay 2

Relay 2
85 - Input from relay 1
86 - Lock motor wire    Blue
87 - Ground
30 - This is you ground when armed output to your window module

What will happen is with the ignition off, when you lock the car it will trigger relay 2 which will pulse your window controller and it will roll up. If the ignition is on and you lock the door, the window will not activate.

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Problem with this setup is most window modules require a longer ground to roll the windows up all the way. If you are using a DEI 530T, your windows will roll up about 2 inches.

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I knew I forgot to mention something. If you find with that setup the windows aren't rolling up all then way, then what you can do is replace relay #2 with a DEI pluse timer relay p/n 528t. Wire that up like so.

Red - Constant
Black - Input from relay #1
BLACK/ white - Lock motor wire
Yellow - Ground
Brown - This is the ground when armed output to your window module.
Cut the blue loop in half and tape up the ends
Set the dial at about the 12 oclock position

As for the window rolldown with the stock remote, I'll have to get back to you, I know I have a diagram at work on how to do it, I just have to find it. The only reason I suggest using a 528t instead of a capacitor is because if you need to extend the trigger for any length of time the cap you'll need will start to get rediculouly large. to put it in prospective a 1 farad cap will keep a standard bosch relay activated for between 15 and 20 seconds.

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yeh, pulse timer, i figured that out already...

all i need help with now is the roll down...
is there a module that i can connect to the unlock wire. that will send a ground pulse if i hit the unlock button 3 times?

cntrylvr79 wrote:

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As for the window rolldown with the stock remote, I'll have to get back to you, I know I have a diagram at work on how to do it, I just have to find it. 

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is there a module that sends a timed ground if it recieves two ground pules one after another.  (or maybe use a combination of a pulse timer and a relay)

this way i could push the unlock button twice and that would make the windows go down.

Ok I might have figured out how to do the roll down with the stock remote.   First make sure that when you hit the unlock button on the remote 3 times, the door locks try to unlock 3 times.  If they do, then you can use a pac tr-7.  You'll have to program the tr-7 to option 15.  The pulse count will have to be 3, and the timer set to 6 seconds.  Then you'll have to wire it up as follows.

Black -  Ground
Red - Constant +12v
Green - Unlock motor wire in the car
White - RED / white wire of the 530t

The brown, blue, and orange wires aren't needed so you can tape them up.  Programming the tr7 can be a bit of a hassle though.  The only other problem you'll run into is you won't be able to just vent the windows with this setup.  Once you hit the unlock button 3 times the windows will start to roll down and should stop at the end of travel.  The unlock motor wire is yellow.  Same place as the lock motor.

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First Class Certi-fried installer

ok

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