No output from 2nd ignition
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 12:43 AM
Topic: No output from 2nd ignition
Posted By: mrjc480
Subject: No output from 2nd ignition
Date Posted: August 30, 2006 at 10:46 PM
Im doing a Hornet 564t remote start and I dont have 12+ from my pink/white 2nd ignition. The truck starts but the ABS, BRAKE, and CHECK ENGINE light come on. I noticed that the satellite relay wire locations differ from the manual, reference guide, and the actual relay. What is my problem? The RED / WHITE and the PINK/WHITE are backwards and the RED / WHITE is supposedly for extra 12v+ and not fused but it already is. I suppose I could test the RED / WHITE and see if it sends 12v+ but that would require a drive accross town. Does anybody have a satellite handy that they can verify?
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Im moving to MEXICO and Im not speaking spanish!
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Posted By: bmwpwner
Date Posted: August 30, 2006 at 11:29 PM
that is weird. hornet is made by dei and i haven't seen any that are backwards. you need to get a manual and use the wires as they are pinned rather than colored. i know that on an actual dei alarm the reds are right beside one another and the pink and pink/white are right beside one another. good luck and hope this helps a little.
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"I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think."
-Socrates-
Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 12:00 AM
i have one in front of me, form a phtyon 891xp if that matters to ya. left to right
purple green red orange red n pink RED / white pink/white.
as for the connector has pins lookign INTO th epins
1234
5678
1 green
2 orange
3 pink
4 pink/white
5 purple
6 red
7red
8 RED / white
Posted By: mrjc480
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 12:07 AM
I have the manual and there are several typos in it. Ive done several of these and this is the first to use "2nd ign.". The first part of the manual that describes each harnass states 1 purple 2 green 3 red 4 orange 5 pink 6 red 7 pink/white 8 RED / white The "reference guide" in back of manual and the actual physical relay is as follows.. 1 purple 2 green 3 red 4 orange 5 red 6 pink 7 RED / white 8 pink white ------------- Im moving to MEXICO and Im not speaking spanish!
Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 12:30 AM
those are both correct. fiirst part and the refrence guide. check to see that the heavy gage wires match up in the harenss. from realy pack to the RS harness. maybe a wire got put in wrong. the RED / white shold be a botton and the pink/white shold be at top.
also may look at the ribbion harness. going to have to do test with a meter.
Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 12:36 AM
ive seen typos in manurals b4, been doign DEI stuff for the longest time so dont even need a manural
Posted By: mrjc480
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 3:14 AM
So i just reviewed a previous install of the same alarm and I found that the Satellite relays are a bit different. Old relays have the heavy gauge wires in a harnass opposed to this one that has the leads coming directly out of the relay. The RED / white wire is looped back into the harnass opposed to this one where the RED / white wire is already fused and stripped at the end. Did DEI produce a new manual and/or change wire colors? What is the best way to solve my problem, jump the ign1 to the ign2 or jump the relay input wires?
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Im moving to MEXICO and Im not speaking spanish!
Posted By: black cavy
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 9:20 AM
you need that 2nd ing hook up,or you'll lock his tranny and be paying.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 5:59 PM
What do you currently have the RED / white wire connected to?
Posted By: mrjc480
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 6:16 PM
nothing. I don't have the vehicle and I don't want to waste the customers time. I'm hoping to be able to correct this in one shot and send him on his way
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Im moving to MEXICO and Im not speaking spanish!
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: August 31, 2006 at 6:46 PM
You need to connect the RED / white to constant 12v before the pink/white will output anything.
Posted By: mrjc480
Date Posted: September 01, 2006 at 4:13 AM
Thank you, that was the key. I gave RED / white 12+ and that then allowed the pink/white to power the second ignition. Why wouldnt the manual tell you this?
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Im moving to MEXICO and Im not speaking spanish!
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 01, 2006 at 6:08 PM
mrjc480 wrote:
I gave RED / white 12+ and that then allowed the pink/white to power the second ignition. Why wouldnt the manual tell you this?
Its says on 2 different pages in the manual:
RED / WHITE (+) 12V input
Connection for high current outputs.
What else do you want?
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