06, 07 scion tc stick, alarm/remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 28, 2024 at 3:39 PM
Topic: 06, 07 scion tc stick, alarm/remote start
Posted By: hardbodys
Subject: 06, 07 scion tc stick, alarm/remote start
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 1:14 PM
i am trying to put the viper 791xv in a 06 scion tc and this car has 2 starter wires i've done 7 car's and all of them only had 1 stater wire. i need to know how to wire in the 2nd starter wire . thanks hardbodys :) ------------- hardbodys
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Posted By: mando2155
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 1:52 PM
you just need to wire up a relay off the motor side of your starter kill relay, so it sends 12 volts to your second starter wire during crank. You dont have to put a starter kill on the second starter wire because the car wont start any way unless both starter wires have 12 volts.
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 2:11 PM
do u have a diagram i can print to use while i'm in the car , i've only done 1 relay .
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hardbodys
Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 2:40 PM
Its just a regular 12v output using 2nd starter wire.
86 - 2nd starter from alarm
87 & 85 - 12v
30 - output to 2nd starter wire
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 2:45 PM
thats the prob i dont have a 2nd starter wire from the alarm there's only a starter side and a key side for the 1 starter wire , i dont know what wire from the alarm to use .
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hardbodys
Posted By: swamprat323
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 3:19 PM
on the realy pack tere are 4 samll wires in a plug there is a 2nd starter wire on that, look in the install manural all the way in the back on the cover.
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 3:39 PM
ok cool i found the plug , do u have msn mess so i could talk to u driect , i realy do apr the help it's for my daughter's car and she comes home tonite from hawaii. so i want to have it done by the time she gets here .
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hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 3:48 PM
i'm going to the shack to get a relay do i need a open or a close relay . i'm thinking a open but i just want to be sure .
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hardbodys
Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 4:04 PM
its just a regular spdt relay 30/40a max
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 4:30 PM
ok so the 1 i got show's 87 as the open pole , ok so clock wise around it go's starting 30 / 86 / 87 / 85 , 85and86 across from each other and 87 and 30 across from each other .
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hardbodys
Posted By: captainzab
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 4:36 PM
dont got a relay infront of me but that should be right, it should be atleast 20A as its max rating
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: June 28, 2006 at 4:54 PM
now i'm lost syy
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hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 05, 2006 at 5:58 PM
i just my son an 07 scion tc and want to know if the wireing is the same as the 06 , i will be putting an alarm + remote start in it . thanks hardbodys :) ------------- hardbodys
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 05, 2006 at 6:04 PM
Thats a pretty new one....
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 05, 2006 at 6:11 PM
It is only the third year the Scion has been out. Most car manufacturers redesign a car about every 4-5 years. That being said, the 2007 is more than likely the same as the 2006. If the body design hasn't changed, the wiring wouldn't have either.
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 05, 2006 at 6:22 PM
thats all i needed to hear thanks guy's i'm on it ibbl and let you know how it went .
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hardbodys
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 05, 2006 at 7:39 PM
Whatcha puttin in?
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Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 12:59 AM
the viper 791 XV i got it all but the remote start i gota go get a relay for the clutch and i have to get the second ign relay setup right i'll try again tomorrow .
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hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 1:09 AM
insted of wireing up the a relay to the second starter wire ? ------------- hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 1:12 AM
thats wierd your reply just vanished ------------- hardbodys
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 6:35 AM
How are you planning on preventing it from starting in gear?
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 11:01 AM
JWorm] wrote:
ow are you planning on preventing it from starting in gear?
Thank you Worm..... -------------
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 3:18 PM
by not putting it in gear when i get out thats the way i taught my wife and son
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hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 3:20 PM
i'm looking for the diagram for the clutch bypass now i don't have memerized
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hardbodys
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 4:22 PM
i need to know how to wire a relay for the second starter wire and a relay for the clutch bypass i have a viper 791 alarm with remote start .
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hardbodys
Posted By: ferretvw
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 4:49 PM
I sincerely don't mean to come off sounding harsh so I apologize if I do but I would recommend not continuing with this install unless you seriously reconsider putting the R/S in. Remote starts on manual vehicles are dangerous unless it is a unit for that purpose, which the viper is not. There is no way to know 100% for sure that the vehicle is not in gear every time you get out and it only takes once to seriously hurt or kill someone. Hopefully you take this into consideration and by all means put the alarm and keyless functions in just disable the R/S function. Thank You. --->Richard
Posted By: hardbodys
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 5:06 PM
thanks ferretvw i understand what you are saying but i have had remote start in 4 different stick's and like i said thats the way i taught my family to drive a stick to alway's put the car in nutral before getting out and i keep the emergency brake ajusted and when on a hill we turn the front wheels into the curb . thanks to all helping me out with this :):):) ------------- hardbodys
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: September 06, 2006 at 5:44 PM
Bypassing a clutch lockout to install a remote start in a standard shift vehicle is unsafe and very foolish. If you read the forum rules, this sort of information is not allowed here. ------------- Support the12volt.com
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