1995 Cherokee, Micro STARTNR2
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 3:29 AM
Topic: 1995 Cherokee, Micro STARTNR2
Posted By: blaine b.
Subject: 1995 Cherokee, Micro STARTNR2
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 9:29 PM
After installing a remote starter in my 1995 Cherokee, the brake/shift interlock does not work. I had the dealer install it in June(as it was a recall from 97 and the previous owner never had it added), so it was infact working (you had to step on the brake to shift out of park)
Well after hooking up the remote starter today, that feature is missing. The only thing I messed with, which had to do with the brake, were the brake wires.....I connected both of the grey wires from the brake switch to the brake input on the remote starter....
Any ideas on what I did to disable the brake/shift interlock? Thanks!
By the way, the remote starter is a Micro STARTNR2. Another question - I am using the tach sense for the remote starter. I hooked it up to the correct wire, and programmed it so it knows what RPM the engine runs at when idling. When the vehicle starts, the starter engauges for a minute and then turns off. That is severly bad for the starter, and I want to know how I can get the remote starter to disengauge the starter the minute the vehicle actually starts. Any idea on that too?
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Posted By: Bmnicolosi
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 10:56 PM
you connected both brake wires to the same wire?
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Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 11:02 PM
Well, there are 2 brown wires (with a stripe, I forget what color;) and they go into the same input on the plug.....so in reality they are the same wire.
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 11:08 PM
Are the brake lights on?
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 11:13 PM
Yes, they work.....so do my brakes.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 11:23 PM
Install a diode inline with the Brake wire coming from the remote start. I have seen this a couple times before. The alarm bleeds enough voltage through to disable the shift lock. It really doesn't do anything as you still can't shift without the key in the ignition.
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Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 10, 2006 at 11:50 PM
What kind of diode?
Posted By: iskidoo
Date Posted: September 11, 2006 at 12:07 AM
Blocking diodes (1N4001/L)
https://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp------------- Steve G
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 14, 2006 at 7:02 PM
Ok, put in a diode today......brake shift interlock still does not work. Even with the brake plug disconnected, the interlock does not exist. What else could be wrong? If it is completely unplugged, the interlock should still be there since it would not be getting ANY brake sense at all!
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: September 15, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Unplug the alarm brain and see if the problem still persists. That would be the next step in trouble shooting.
Do you know what exactly was involved in the recall/adding of the shift lock? Something may have come loose during the install.
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Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 15, 2006 at 11:12 PM
No I do not know what was exactly involved in the recall.....all I know is that they added the interlock, because some people would accidentally put their foot on the throttle instead of the brake and then shift into reverse, and many accidents would occur when they either hit things behind them, sometimes people too....they tried to blame it on other things (they called it "sudden acceleration") but that was a lie; observers saw no brake lights and such....they just had their foot on the wrong pedal!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 17, 2006 at 2:09 PM
By the way, I fixed my "Starter" issue. I was using the blue/gray wire rather than the BLACK/ gray wire.....The12Volt's wiring guide specified the tach wire was BLACK/ gray. I was using different instructions before which specified the wrong wire.......a big thanks to The12Volt! However, I have another problem......after starting (the starter stops as soon as it starts, yay!) the engine turns off, like it isn't sensing that it started......it tries twice more, turning off after each start. What could this be? I'll make a new thread dedicated to only that problem......if anyone has any more suggestions on my brake/shift interlock, I'm all ears!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 17, 2006 at 2:14 PM
When starting the vehicle with the Micro STARTNR2 remote starter, the vehicle starts successfully, but then quits.....then the unit starts the vehicle twice more, and it stops after each successful start (3 start attempts with this model) Anyone know why the vehicle is stopping? I have the correct tach wire hooked up (starter disengauges as soon as the engine is started, and the unit is showing me it "learned" the "tach sense" correctly when programming.) Vehicle is a 95 Jeep Cherokee. Thank you!
Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 17, 2006 at 4:31 PM
What did you use for tach wire?
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Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 17, 2006 at 6:30 PM
The grey/black wire. It is the correct wire as the starter does not stay on past when the engine starts. It is also the wire listed in The12Volt's wiring "color" chart for my vehicle. I used another wire before (from an apparently "fubared" color diagram from another website) and when using the blue/grey wire, the starter would stay on way past when the engine started. However using the other wire (blue/grey), the engine would stay on, but I am confident that it was the wrong wire since the starter would continue running a good 30-45 seconds after the engine started. Thanks!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 29, 2006 at 8:00 PM
Well, I have everything hooked up correctly. After remote starting, the vehicle starts properly, then shuts off.....starts it another 2 times (3 start attempts) and after each time, the vehicle shuts off. What is wrong? Also, what is the brake sense wire? One diagram (The12Volt's) said the white wire coming out of the brake switch. I hooked it up to that and the remote starter isn't getting an indication that the brake is being pressed. However, that wouldn't be causing me my "shut off" problem after the vehicle is started remotely. Secondly, my brake shift interlock went away. All wires are intact. It is supposed to lock you out of shifting out of park when your foot is on the brake, but mine isn't doing that anymore. It lets me shift out of park whenever I want, with or without the foot on the brake. Any ideas? Vehicle is a 1995 Jeep Cherokee Country. This is frustrating me, especially since the cold weather is basically here. Thank you!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 29, 2006 at 10:00 PM
PS: Ok, I fixed the brake shift interlock. I simply unplugged the connector on the interlock "solenoid" (cylinder on the steering column) and it now works again. Also I figured out the brake sense I needed was the black wire, as it is the brake sense negative. So that portion (brake sense and the interlock) is back to NORMAL! Yay. However, I still have the problem where after remote starting the jeep, it turns off after 5 seconds, and keeps restarting itself until it gives up after the 3rd try, and gives me the "3 start attempts failed" diagnostic. Why is it doing this? Tach sense was learned correctly - any other ideas? Thank you!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 29, 2006 at 10:01 PM
Remote starter is MICRO STARTNR2.
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 30, 2006 at 12:46 AM
Ok, here's another update. Two wiring diagrams were wrong for the tach wire, and I finally got it on the third attempt. The remote starter workes flawlessly now!
Posted By: blaine b.
Date Posted: September 30, 2006 at 12:53 AM
The brake shift interlock is back to not working. Just by touching the cylinder thing that controls the interlock, the function has disappeared. I checked all wires and everything is fine. I don't know what kind of crap is going on here, but it seems that just by touching it, I'm back at where I started with this interlock bushwa. Any ideas to why it is being so touchy?
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