05 dodge caravan remote start
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 05 dodge caravan remote start
Posted By: dereck
Subject: 05 dodge caravan remote start
Date Posted: October 02, 2006 at 6:29 PM
Just wondering a couple things, on the 05 caravan the wires in the ignition harness are like 18 guage and the remote start has like 16 guage. Is it ok to hook these up?
And on the door locks, if i use relays do i need to hook up resistors to?
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Posted By: shaggy12volt
Date Posted: October 02, 2006 at 7:24 PM
dereck wrote:
Just wondering a couple things, on the 05 caravan the wires in the ignition harness are like 18 guage and the remote start has like 16 guage. Is it ok to hook these up?
And on the door locks, if i use relays do i need to hook up resistors to?
run your power wires to the battery do not use the lt.blue/red at all can not handlle the pull from the remote start as for the dor lock yes you do read the info below WIRING INFORMATION - DODGE / CARAVAN / 2005 / Remote Start 12volts | lt. blue/red (10A) | + | ignition harness | Starter | yellow | + | ignition harness | Second Starter | PURPLE / brown | - | ignition harness | Notes: The second starter wire is negative trigger thru a 180 ohm resistor. MUST use a relay. Refer to DirectFax document 1083 for wiring information. | Ignition | pink/white | + | ignition harness | Second Ignition | N/A | | | Third Ignition | N/A | | | Accessory | not required for remote start | | | Second Accessory | N/A | | | Keysense | N/A | | | Power Lock | PURPLE / dk. green | - | BCM, white plug, pin 21 | Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Can also use Directed 456L interface modules. | Power Unlock | same as power lock wire | | | Lock Motor | tan/white | 5wi | BCM, green plug, pin 10 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Unlock Motor | tan/lt. green | 5wi | BCM, green plug, pin 28 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Parking Lights+ | WHITE/ brn (L), WHITE/ org (R) | + | driver kick, harness to rear | Parking Lights- | WHITE/ brown | - | switch or BCM, gray plug, pin 21 | Notes: The parking lights are negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch. See DirectFax document 1082 for wiring information.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Hazards | WHITE/ dk. blue | - | switch or BCM, gray plug, pin 31 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Turn Signal(L) | wht/lt blu (F), wht/dk grn (R) | + | BCM, green plug, pins 1, 2 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Turn Signal(R) | WHITE/ tan (F), WHITE/ brown (R) | + | BCM, green plug, pins 3, 4 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Reverse Light | WHITE/ lt. green | + | BCM, green plug, pin 9 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Door Trigger | see notes | - | BCM, white plug | Notes: The driver door trigger is purple in pin 6, the passenger door is PURPLE / white in pin 7, the left sliding door is PURPLE / gray in pin 8, and the right sliding door is purple / YELLOW in pin 5. Use all four wires and diode isolate each. Also have to diode isolate from the BCM. Refer to DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Dome Supervision | yellow/brown or yellow/white | + | BCM, white plug, pin 33 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Trunk/Hatch Pin | PURPLE / orange | - | BCM, white plug, pin 29 | Notes: A diode must be placed inline on this wire to avoid problems with the dome lights and parking lights.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Hood Pin | PURPLE / lt. blue (export model) | - | BCM, white plug, pin 30 | Notes: The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Trunk/Hatch Release | PURPLE / tan | - | BCM, green plug, pin 6 | Notes: Hatch release is negative trigger thru a 1.69K ohm resistor. MUST use a relay.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Power Sliding Door | PURPLE / dk. blue | - | BCM, white plug, pin 1 | Notes: Left power sliding door is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor. Right power sliding door is negative trigger thru a 2.7K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Factory Alarm Arm | arms on lock with door open | | | Factory Alarm Disarm | factory remote only | | | Disarm No Unlock | with ignition and Sentry Key | | | Tachometer | NOT BROWN / white | ac | ign coil pack or any fuel injector | Wait to start | N/A | | | Brake Wire | WHITE/ tan | + | brake pedal switch | Parking Brake | dk. GREEN / WHITE | - | parking brake switch | Horn Trigger | dk. GREEN/ purple | - | steering column | Memory Seat 1 | PURPLE / brown | - | BCM, green plug, pin 24 | Notes: Memory seat 1 is negative trigger thru a 6.8K ohm resistor. Memory seat 2 is negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs. | Memory Seat 2 | same as memory seat 1 wire | - | | Memory Seat 3 | N/A | - | | Interface Module: | Category: Immobilizer Bypass | Required: Yes | Type: Sentry Key | Part #: 556CW | Alternate Part1 #: 556UW | Alternate Part2 #: DesignTech 20402 | Alternate Part3 #: DesignTech 29402 | Notes: Standard on SXT models. Optional on SE models. | Interface Module: | Category: Door Lock Interface | Required: Yes | Type: Multiplex | Part #: 456LW | Notes: | Smart Starter Kill Relays: | Relay Type: Starter Relay | Location: Engine compartment fusebox, Driver side | Part #: 6401A |
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------------- The Shagmaster
1999 Chevy Suburban 15" lift sittn on 22's sets 7'5"
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Posted By: dereck
Date Posted: October 03, 2006 at 8:23 PM
So do I understand this corectly, This is a 5 wire Alt 12V Positive door locks so I can hook this up as the diagram shows. Spliting the lock wire and unlock wire for the motor and run it through the relay (30 and 87a). This Should work?
And were do I find DirectFax document 1083?
My email is dereckdaniels@hotmail.com if someone could send it to me thanks so much.
Posted By: shaggy12volt
Date Posted: October 03, 2006 at 9:32 PM
you have a one wire door lock system Power Lock and Unlock | PURPLE / dk. green | - | BCM, white plug, pin 21 | Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.
Can also use Directed 456L interface modules. |
------------- The Shagmaster
1999 Chevy Suburban 15" lift sittn on 22's sets 7'5"
1992 Chevy Astro Van all Bagged out Dubbed THE SUICIDER
Installing for over 18 years Looking for empolyment NOW send PM for resum
Posted By: wrxsti161
Date Posted: October 06, 2006 at 10:10 AM
this is a (-) triggered multiplex lock/unlock system. You will need to use 1 relay. This never fails me: 86 (-) lock in 85 +12v 87 5.3k ohm resistor to ground 30 cars lock-unlock wire (purple dk.green) 87a (-) unlock wire to 2.9k ohm resistor to remote start unit ------------- David
MECP Basic Installer Certification
Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: October 09, 2006 at 5:38 AM
cool idea but your unlock wire isnt actually relayed it is straight from the starter unit i would suggest you use two relays and do it properly
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Posted By: snotdobbs
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 8:10 PM
its highly unlikely that your remote start is gonna have more than a 10 amp draw since everything in that vehicle is low current......but smack me if im wrong
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 8:46 PM
I've done tons of RS in these vans and always use power from the ignition switch. Nothing is high current if you use negative park lights and it works fine...
------------- Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: shaggy12volt
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 8:56 PM
snotdobbs wrote:
its highly unlikely that your remote start is gonna have more than a 10 amp draw since everything in that vehicle is low current......but smack me if im wrong
Why do you think they usely put two 30 amp fuses on most remote starters. have looked at how skiny them wires are i wouldint want to take any chance ------------- The Shagmaster
1999 Chevy Suburban 15" lift sittn on 22's sets 7'5"
1992 Chevy Astro Van all Bagged out Dubbed THE SUICIDER
Installing for over 18 years Looking for empolyment NOW send PM for resum
Posted By: snotdobbs
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 9:15 PM
just because your amp has a forty amp fuse in it does that mean your always gonna be drawing 30 or 35 amps....youll be fine using that power lead......i will suggest staying away from the 2 amp circuit powering the new dodge rams key cylinder....you will likely be drawing more than 2 amps at a given point but come on 10 amps to activate low current switches to a pcm? unlikely....your parking lights are negative and that relay might draw something but nothing to be concerned about.....if your adding relays for lockunlock sliding doors power rear hatch.....then yah maybe your gonna draw more than ten amps if you activate every option while your remote starting with every accesory in the vehicle on........but thats an unlikely situation....besides just use a combo data interface and youll nevr have anything to worry about....... just my two sense........ though i am surprised that someone agreed with me about this...........mikem2...i figured idget pm'd to never post here again.......
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 9:16 PM
shaggy12volt wrote:
snotdobbs wrote:
its highly unlikely that your remote start is gonna have more than a 10 amp draw since everything in that vehicle is low current......but smack me if im wrong
Why do you think they usely put two 30 amp fuses on most remote starters. have looked at how skiny them wires are i wouldint want to take any chance
Incorrect. Think about it, the remote start is duplicating you turning the key. If the van needs,say, 7 amps to start and run with the key that's all it needs for the remote start to do the same thing. In this case using a 10 amp source would be fine as long as you don't add anything high current the remote start will turn on beyond what the key would normally do. The 30 amp fuses the RS manufacturer installs are a generic size designed to cover the most possible draw in any type car, like maybe an old Chevy van that had a large power consumption from the ignition switch. ------------- Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: snotdobbs
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 9:19 PM
errr......... i meant two cents.....
Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: October 10, 2006 at 9:54 PM
For power you can grab it at the BCM on the top plug. You will need to remove the plug and pull it down , there you will find the CONSTANT power for the BCM. It's a high amperage power input for the vehicle and this is where I normally grab the power ( without any problems ). As far as the door locks, I have successfully installed the (-) trigger resistor door locks without the use of relays. The (-) output from the Compustar units that I've installed is enough for the door locks to operate with the need to have relays added.
------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: dereck
Date Posted: October 11, 2006 at 8:29 PM
Thanks for the help everyone, I have a good idea what I will do now. Thanks again
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