remote start, 2000 Ram diesel
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Topic: remote start, 2000 Ram diesel
Posted By: viperbluelx
Subject: remote start, 2000 Ram diesel
Date Posted: November 03, 2006 at 7:00 PM
I'm installing a startnr2 system from Micro Alarm. I've wired it up exactly as the instructions say and when it tries to start the truck it will engage the starter but it's not kicking the fuel pump on so the truck will not start. I assume this is something to do with Ignition 1 or Ignition 2? I've got ignition 1 hooked to the dark blue wire under the column and ignition 2 is hooked the to the BLACK/ white wire like the diagrams on here and on bulldog's website shows. Any ideas, this is driving me nuts and it's the 2nd one(different brand) that I've put on the truck because I though the 1st one was just defective. Link to kit: https://www.microalarm.com/pdf/startnr2.pdf
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 7:43 AM
Where did you grab the tach signal from and also what color is it ? Sounds like it's not detecting the engine running.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 8:13 AM
Do I have to connect the Wait to start wire on my Micro remote start? I've got a 2000 Ram truck and I live in GA so I don't need the Wait to start, so can I just leave it disconnected?
Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 8:38 AM
Velocity Motors wrote:
Where did you grab the tach signal from and also what color is it ? Sounds like it's not detecting the engine running.
Tach signal is coming from the gray/black wire under the hood, which is supposed to be the correct one for a diesel engine. My concern is why isn't the remote start triggering the fuel pump? It's almost like I've got the wrong ignition wire hooked up, but I've checked two different wiring diagrams.
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 9:12 AM
Did you test ignition 1 and 2 to confirm they were igntion leads diagrams can be wrong always verify before connecting.
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Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 9:18 AM
xtremej wrote:
Did you test ignition 1 and 2 to confirm they were igntion leads diagrams can be wrong always verify before connecting.
They both have +12V when in the on and the run positions. When I trigger the remote start it is sending 12V to both wires. Obviously there is another wire that needs to be triggered because I can hit the remote start button and quickly turn the ignition key to on(so the fuel pump runs) and the truck fires right up.
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 9:39 AM
Do you mean they show 12v in run and start postion, as an ignition lead should have power during crank or start-up. Accesory drops power during start-up.
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Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 9:41 AM
I checked with dei adn wire magic they have dark blue as ignition 1 and BLACK/ white as a second accessory adn BLACK/ orange as accessory 1.
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Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Thanks for all the help. It seems that there are 2 dark blue wires in the column and I tapped into the wrong one. Everything is working well now, except for the Wait to Start. I found the Wait to Start wire under the hood and it shows a negative signal when the light goes out, but my remote start says it needs a positive signal?
Posted By: xtremej
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 11:24 AM
Use a relay to flip the sinal from the wait to start wire. In the realy section on the right column it shows how to convert polarity.
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Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 12:06 PM
Is it possible to extend the range of the stock keyless entry system on a Dodge Ram pickup? It seems I have to walk within about 20 feet of the truck to get the doors to lock or unlock via the remote. Normally this wouldn't be much of an issue, but I'm using the unlock button of the keyless entry to trigger the remote start and the range doesn't shoot far enough so that I can start my truck from my door step on cold mornings. My truck is about 50 feet from my front door. :(
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 1:47 PM
Have you tried holding the relote up to your chin? Sounds stupid but it does work...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 2:48 PM
Typically you can't adjust the range of a stock keyless system because they arn't designed for long range. System designers have to compromise between battery life and transmitter strength, and most OEMs would rather safe batteries (and hassle) then increase range of their keyless systems. Also, limited range keyless remotes help prevent accidently unlocking the doors without knowledge. I would never recomend to trigger a remote start off of an OEM keyless system, because range is inconsistant. Your best bet would to replace everything with an aftermarket unit, or at least upgrade your keyless system to an aftermarket unit. If you want to stay OEM you may try replacing the battery, that may provide a temporary fix. ------------- Kevin Pierson
Posted By: viperbluelx
Date Posted: November 04, 2006 at 3:04 PM
KPierson wrote:
I would never recomend to trigger a remote start off of an OEM keyless system, because range is inconsistant. Your best bet would to replace everything with an aftermarket unit, or at least upgrade your keyless system to an aftermarket unit. If you want to stay OEM you may try replacing the battery, that may provide a temporary fix.
This is a STARTNR2 system from Micro Alarm, it's designed for use with the factory keyless entry because it uses the negative pulse from the unlock button to trigger the remote start, it doesn't even have it's own remote with the kit.
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