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remote start in an 07 ion3

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=86464
Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 5:07 AM


Topic: remote start in an 07 ion3

Posted By: Fosgate3
Subject: remote start in an 07 ion3
Date Posted: November 30, 2006 at 4:46 PM

I just bought a 2007 Saturn Ion3 sedan and I'm looking into different remote start systems. I was wondering (and I think the answer to this question is "yes") if a 06-07 Ion3 uses the typical GM Passlock II system. If so, I'd guess that I would need a DEI 555L (or comparable item by another company) to do a quick and easy install of a remote start system. Can anyone think of anything else? What about the keyless side... anything particular about that?

I searched for a wiring diagram on the12volt but didnt find anything past 2005. Does anyone have one?

Thanks ahead of time...




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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: November 30, 2006 at 4:58 PM
Most Ions use the hybrid Passlock circuit where a 555L will not work... use a 556L or better yet a PLJX from trilogix.....

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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: November 30, 2006 at 7:28 PM
They simply call it "Passlock" on the Ion.

It's a different system from Passlock I or Passlock II.

The 555L should work fine, though. I use the nearly-identical Audiovox AS-GM4 on those cars with no trouble.

You can also use a resistor and a relay, although it takes longer. If you search the www.carsound.com/forum security forum, you should be able to find the resistor method.

DEI has a special bulletin about how to use the 555L on the Ion, as well.




Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: November 30, 2006 at 10:43 PM
Using 555L with ion

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Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: November 30, 2006 at 10:49 PM
thanks for the input.




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: December 12, 2006 at 7:25 AM

im thinking of doing a Prestige 996A on my 07 Saturn Ion3. is the setup the same as what would be seen in an 04 impala as far as additional modules are concerned? i put a Harada HCS-900 in my wife's car and needed only a module to interface into the passlock system. i cant remember what module that was though. is there anything i could get that would interface into the car and make the install easier? to be honest, im not as up on the technology as i used to be... comes with stepping out of the game of installing for a while!

thanks ahead of time!





Posted By: customak47
Date Posted: December 12, 2006 at 10:53 AM
This vehicle has a special version of passlock 2 that one wire controls the starter, accessory and passlock resistance. The dei 555lw and the bypasskit.com plxr are what you need.

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Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: January 18, 2007 at 10:36 PM

In regard to the last comment, am I reading right: I need *both* a DEI 555LW  and  a plxr for the car? or just one or the other? The DEI module is what I've used before in the past with the Impala referenced above.

Anything significant with the door locks or are they designed as typically seen in GM vehicles?





Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: January 19, 2007 at 7:41 AM
You only need one Passlock bypass. 555L will do it. Not familiar with the PJLX, but regardless, if you buy one, you don't need the other.

When you install your APS-996A, remember that there isn't a way for the aftermarket unit to control the Saturn's factory alarm.

Set the factory remotes aside and stop using them. Also couldn't hurt to get out the Saturn's owner's manual and go into programming and disable the factory alarm altogether.




Posted By: dwbarger
Date Posted: January 19, 2007 at 6:51 PM
Look into the bypasskit XK810 unit it is a remote starter with all bypass and doorlock features all in one that runs throught the data. I think the unit is available for the Saturn. It is an upgradeable unit.




Posted By: Fosgate3
Date Posted: January 19, 2007 at 7:06 PM
thanks for the info. i ended up getting the 555LW by DEI. Anything different about the door locks?




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: January 20, 2007 at 5:07 PM
Here's the fastest/easiest/simplest way to do the locks. I install Audiovox every day, and do a lot of Saturns.

First, locate the car's lock/unlock wire. It's white. You can get it coming in from the driver's door, but also along the doorsill running to the rear of the car, with the parking light and brake wires. It's going to be a lot easier to get it in the doorsill.

It'll test as a straight ground when you press lock on the door panel, and a partial ground for unlock.

From your 996, get the following things: The 4-pin auxillary harness, the 3-pin doorlock harness, the package of resistors, and the diode pack (the diode pack is in the black shrink tubing, packaged with the on/off control switch.)

From the resistor pack, take the resistor with the lowest value......it's all the way on one end of the pack......measures around 3-400 ohms if you're using a meter. Discard the rest.

On that diode pack, it has one end with a single wire, and another end with two wires. Cut off ONE wire from the double end, discard it, and tape off the exposed wire coming from the diode.

You DON'T need the following:

From the lock harness: red-lock, RED / black-second unlock

From the four-pin harness: BLACK/ blue, BLACK/ red, BLACK / YELLOW.

(Unless you choose to use the BLACK/ red to pulse the car's doorpin wire, to shut off the Saturn's radio after remote start shutdown.....but the radio times out after a little while anyway.)

Take the green unlock wire, connect it to the resistor.....connect the other side of the resistor to the SINGLE end of the diode pack.......connect the other end of the diode pack to the white wire in the car.

Take the GREEN/ black pulse-after-start wire, and connect it DIRECTLY to the white wire in the car, with NO diodes, relays, or resistors.

Although the GREEN/ black pulses after starting, it also pulses when you press Lock on the transmitter. Just remember that every time you remote start the car, it's going to also lock itself.

P.S. Again, don't forget to turn off the Saturn alarm. When you enter the Saturn's programming menu, you have to listen for a chime...........if you keep the door closed and the seatbelt fastened, you won't be distracted by the belt/door chimes.




Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: January 20, 2007 at 5:27 PM
double check on the key itself some of the new gms have a new style of passlock ( if the key has a plus on it just under the plastic it requires 2 bypasses a 555L and a 556U it is a pain in the ass but it can be done

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Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: January 20, 2007 at 5:34 PM

someone wrote that you cant interface with the factory alarm that is not quite true it is possible however it is quite tricky because it uses RF frequency it must be done via the factory remote if you are willing to you can hook up you arm and disarm wires from the aftermarket starter  to the factory remote and it will trigger the lock and arm as well as the unlock and disarm i have done this it is a pain in the ass but the customer i i did it for was willing to pay for it so i am always willing to try

this is just a side note and i wouldnt recomend this to someone just starting you risk messing up the factory remote if you dont test the wires 100%



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"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd
all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive
music."-Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc.






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