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07 honda accord, alarm/remote start

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 07 honda accord, alarm/remote start

Posted By: ihkili18
Subject: 07 honda accord, alarm/remote start
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 5:05 PM

Hey everyone i am installing a aps997 in a 07 accord. although i am mechanically inclined i have never installed a remote start or alarm in a car but i have installed amps and speakers. i just cant bring myself to pay 500 dollars for a alarm installed when i could buy it on ebay for 120 and install it myself so if people could help out a first timer like myself i would greatly appreciate it. I have the wiring diagram and it doesn't look terrible considering i can use a multimeter and i know how to disassemble things. I have a few questions:

1) I know that i will be using a few relays during the installation. They all need a 12+ source. If i connect them all to one wire even if the wire is fused for the load  i would have to strip a lot of insulation from the wire weakening it. I was thinkin of running one fresh wire from the battery and just stripping away at that rather than abusing my facctory wiring. so how do you guys handle this?

2) How do i integrate the 556u bypass into the install, is there a dedicated outlet on the alarm brain that the bypass just plugs into or do i have to connect it to a output wire on the alarm that will send it a signal when you attempt to remote start?

3) how do i hook up the door wires on this alarm? i see on the wiring diagrams that there are lock and unlock wires with differen colors both being negative.

4)there are a few wires that relock the doors after the remote start starts the car and after it shuts it down. these are 300 ma. does it need a relat and do i connect these two to the lock wire on the vehicle and do they need relays?

thanx so much and i am still confused as even though i have the wiring diagram im still not sure which of the audiovox  wires go to which honda wire.any help would be appreciated and thanx again




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Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 5:17 PM

The battery wire off the igntion switch will do just fine for power. Removing the insulation will have zero effect on the wire. A good way to do it is tap into the wire with just one of the thicker guage battery wires and then tap off that for all other needs.

The 556u will connect to the RS through the blue wire. Simply connect this wire to the light blue statis wire on the RS. This will activate the 556U whenever the RS is used.

At the top of the fuse box in the back is a green 5 pin plug. Use the GREEN/ red in that plug for door trigger. Connect it to the brown wire on the alarm and it will cover all 4 doors.

You do not need any relays for the lock wires. The wires you are tapping into are just triggers for the factory relays.



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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 8:23 PM
thanx so much for the quick reply i really appreciate it im looking over alll the instructions now so i might have more questions hope not though




Posted By: advanced
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 8:44 PM
The Audiovox Prestige is a great choice. Prestige is all I use. Take your time & test every wire w/your multimeter first. Don't connect into anything if you are not absolutely sure. Come back & ask questions if you must.

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 8:55 PM

hi again i am looking at these three wires in the owners manual and i am not sure exactly where to connect them to. if i am correct the BLACK/ blue wire goes to the honda factory disarm wire. does the BLACK/ green connect to the factory rearm or does it connect to the factory lock wire?does the BLACK/ red connect to the rearm  honda wire?

hope someone can help and thanx so much in advance

Black w Blue Trace Wire: Pulsed Ground Output Before Start

The Black w/ Blue Trace wire will provide a 1 second 300 mA pulsed ground output 1.5 second before the

remote start unit activates as well as when the transmitter is used to disarm the system. Typical use for

this output would be to disarm a factory theft deterrent system to prevent false triggering of the factory alarm

when the remote start unit engages or when the system is used to unlock the doors.

NOTE: This output can be selected to operate like the door lock output as set in alarm feature setting #1 by

selecting feature #7 on.

Black w/ Light Green Trace Wire: Pulsed Ground Output After Start

The Black w/ Light Green Trace wire will provide a 1 second 300mA pulsed ground output after the vehicle

is started under control of the remote start unit. Typically this wire will be used to re-lock the vehicle doors

if the doors unlock automatically when the factory anti-theft system is disarmed. This wire will also activate

when the transmitter is used to alm/lock the system.

Black w/ Red Trace Wire: Pulsed Ground Output After Shutdown

The Black w/ Red Trace wire will provide a 1 second 300 mA pulsed ground output after the remote start unit

shuts down. This output will occur regardless of whether the circuit times out or is manually terminated.

Typically this output will be used to re-lock the vehicle doors if the doors unlock automatically when the

ignition circuit transitions to off.





Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 9:15 PM
I'm also so confused as to what to do with the door lock wires. the o7 honda has lock motor and unlock motor wires and also power lock and power unlock wires thats 4 wires. alarm has three unlock and lock wires and it is really confusing me. im sure you guys that have done this before think these questions are stupid but i have never installed security devices only car audio so this is a first. hope you guys can help and thank you so much




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 9:43 PM

OK, you won't need to use motor wires for any reason unless you plan on connecting a 2 stage unlock. To just control the locks, use the lock and unlock wires only. Here's the difference, There are factory relays that control the door lock motors. the motor lges are the wires between the motors and the relays. the lock and unlock wires are inbetween the relays and the switch.



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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 9:43 PM
You do NOT connect to the "motor wires". Connect to the wires listed as Lock and Unlock




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 10:57 PM
thanx so much for the help id love to say i wont need it anymore but i prob will encounter more diffucuties anyways thanx so much




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 15, 2006 at 11:24 PM

do you guys know if this comes with a starter  kill relay or do i have to buy it. i prob will need some relays aanyways cause i want to wire it to open the trunk. so basically what else do i need in addition to whats in the box already?thanx





Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 16, 2006 at 7:40 AM

I think that comes with a starter kill. Is there a relay in the box with orange, black, WHITE/ black, and red wires? That's it.

You need one relay for trunk release and that should be it unless you want two step unlock(which would require another relay).



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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 16, 2006 at 4:30 PM

ok so i dont need relays  for the horn honk feature, and parking light flash it says the alarm only provides 200ma so i wasnt sure. do i need any diodes because i see them mentioned but i never really understood what they are and how to use them. i know they are used for the door locks.  thanx again for all the help





Posted By: advanced
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 3:12 PM
It definetely comes with a relay. Did you not get thae unit yet? And is new or used? $120 is a great price if it's new.
But yes, it's always good to have some relays in stock. You may need one for the trunk release, I'm not sure in that car.
Diodes carry the signal one-way only. That is their purpose. It's like a one-way valve. You don't need any for door locks, but you need them for the door pin switch wires (to "diode isolate" them)

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 17, 2006 at 8:24 PM

Ok i looked at the honda accord diagram and it says the door trigger is a GREEN/ red wire and is negative polarity. The purple door trigger wire on the audiovox aps997 is a wire that should be connected to a wire that shows 12 volts when the door is opened. what should i do thanx also i did not get the alram yet its in the mail but i am trying to plan everything out in advance.





Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 8:23 AM
Hey do any of you guys who have installed alarm,remote starts on the new honda accords know if diodes are needed during the install and where. i dont think the door trigger needs it on this car but i may be wrong.thanx




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 9:34 AM
"i dont think the door trigger needs it on this car but i may be wrong.thanx "

You are right on your assumption. Not needed for door trigger.


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Posted By: advanced
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 1:36 PM
The APS 997 has a brown wire for negative door trigger. You need to use that. You don't use the purple @ all. Where did you get the Honda wiring diagram, so I know what you are looking at?

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 6:30 PM
hey thanx for the reply. i downloaded it off this site. its in the vehicle diagrams section




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 6:32 PM
thanx




Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 6:43 PM
There are 4 seperate door triggers, so you will need 4 diodes:

HONDA, ACCORD, 2006, Door Trigger
The LF door is green in a lt. green 16 pin plug, pin 15. The RF door is lt. GREEN/ red in a lt. green 14 pin plug, pin 12. The LR door is GREEN/ YELLOW in a lt. green 16 pin plug, pin 14. The RR door is GREEN / WHITE in a lt. green 14 pin plug, pin 13. Use all four wires and diode isolate each.




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 7:19 PM
why cant i just do the drivers door?




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 7:23 PM
also do i need diodes on that negative door trigger wire and do i need to do all the doors or just the driver door?




Posted By: advanced
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 9:13 PM
Usually, you need to tie into all the doors if you want to protect all the doors. With one door wire, you don't need a diode, but with more than one wire you will need to diode isolate each one.

I've never done a 2007, but according to the wiring diagram on this site, you need to tap into only one wire, the GREEN/ red in the green connector behind fusepanel. So you don't need any diodes in your case.   

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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: December 18, 2006 at 10:41 PM
ihkili18 wrote:

why cant i just do the drivers door?


What if someone breaks in the passenger door? You do want the alarm to go off then, don't you?

The GREEN/ red wire listed on this site should catch all the doors. I believe it leads directly to the domelight. It will probably also read the domelight delay. I prefer to use the true door triggers, but the domelight wire will probably work just fine for you.




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 2:44 AM
thanx so when my alarm comes i think im just gonna use that wire.thanx again for the help




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 2:55 AM

On the 2007 accord wiring diagram posted on this site it says that the factory arm and factory disarm wires are in the "switch controller" in the drivers door. Does that mean I have to take off the door panel to do it or can  anyone tell me where the point the wire enters the car  or if i could just tap into the wire underneath the rubber protector cause i dont really want to take the door panel off. the 2003 and up accords are basically the same so im sure some of you guys have done this before.thanx in advance





Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 6:25 AM
The reason they tell you to go into the door is because the wire doesn't exist outside of the door. The wires you need run between the door key cylinder and the door control module(switch).

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 6:44 AM

Thanx mike, so do you think removing the intital door panel will allow me access to the wire in question? Or do I have to remove additional panels after I take that off. Thanx





Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 7:46 PM
once you pull the door panel they should both be at the door switches..........to test put the key in the door cylinder and lock and unlock w/ key to verify.




Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 8:11 PM
You might want to look into getting a HODL2 to control the doorlocks, factory alarm, hood pin, door trigger and trunk release. You connect the wires from the module to the remote start, and then connect to just one wire inside the car and you are done. Running wires through the drivers door boot is not fun....there is a molex plug there.





Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 8:32 PM
Further to JWorm suggestion, you may want to look into CANSL2. It does, tach, lock, alarm bah bah bah... worth the price of admission.

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 19, 2006 at 9:23 PM
thank you




Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 9:42 AM
Hey everyone when you are sitting in the car with the key in your pocket or whatever and you unlock the doors by pressing the unlock button on the door the factory alarm disarms. So obviously if the aftermarket alarm unlocks the doors it will disarm as well. I was wondering if you guys still feel it would be good to wire up the factory disarm and why.thanx so much




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 12:41 PM
"obviously if the aftermarket alarm unlocks the doors it will disarm as well"

That's only if you sit inside the vehicle without breaking the door tigger. Otherwise, the alarm will sound. The door tigger is what acitvate the factory alarm. Since you are sitting inside the vehicle without breaking the door trigger, the factory alarm won't activate.      

"I was wondering if you guys still feel it would be good to wire up the factory disarm and why.thanx so much"

That what the disarm does, it deactivate the factory arm when you are no longer sitting inside the vechicle. That's the simpliest I am able to put it.

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 3:39 PM
so you dont think pressing unlock on the aftermarket alarm will disarm the factory alarm as well because it is unlocking the doors in the process and when the doors are unlocked the factory alarm disarms?thanx




Posted By: thepencil
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 4:20 PM
ihkili18 wrote:

so you dont think pressing unlock on the aftermarket alarm will disarm the factory alarm as well because it is unlocking the doors in the process and when the doors are unlocked the factory alarm disarms?thanx


They are two seperate wire. The alarm unit will send two different signal to the factory module.

1st it tell the vehicle to disarm, then 2nd, unlock.

I am not getting you to think logically. Think of it like this. You have the car arm. Then think of someone reaching in to hit the unlock button on the arm rest.

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Posted By: ihkili18
Date Posted: December 22, 2006 at 4:39 PM
Yeah I hear what your saying I guess I am just trying to take a shortcut which is probably not good. Thanx for the help





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