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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: October 31, 2024 at 6:36 PM


Topic: remote car starters

Posted By: Jwolfer
Subject: remote car starters
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 5:46 AM

I installed a remote starter in a 2002 Chrysler voyager.  Had all kinds of trouble and had a lot of tech support help.  Now vehicle starts but long crank time and sometimes sets check engine light.  I was force to use the tach mode start.  Help.....Tech support ran out of ideas.  It is a design-tech starter.



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Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 9:39 AM

You mean it cranks over a long time before it starts or cranks over for too long after it starts?  What is the code it sets when the check engine light comes on?

What ignition wires did you hook up to?





Posted By: ViperATC5
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 1:54 PM
2002 chrysler town and country?




Posted By: ViperATC5
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 1:56 PM

ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |
|              12V|lt blue/red (10A) *1|+  |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|yellow              |+  |ignition harness            |
|   SECOND STARTER|PURPLE / brown *12    |-  |ignition harness            |
|         IGNITION|pink/white          |+  |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|*11                 |   |                            |
|       POWER LOCK|PURPLE / green *3     |-  |conn. 3, pin 21 @ BCM *2    |
|     POWER UNLOCK|same wire           |   |                            |
|       LOCK MOTOR|tan/white           |   |conn. 2, pin 10 @ BCM *2    |
|     UNLOCK MOTOR|tan/lt. green       |   |conn. 2, pin 28 @ BCM *2    |
|    DISARM DEFEAT|tan/brown           |   |conn. 2, pin 26 @ BCM *2    |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|DO NOT USE          |   |                            |
| PARKING LIGHTS -|WHITE/ brown *8      |   |headlight switch            |
|       HEADLIGHTS|same wire           |   |                            |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|*4                  |-  |BCM *2                      |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            |
|  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|PURPLE / orange *9    |-  |conn. 3, pin 29 @ BCM *2    |
|         HOOD PIN|PURPLE / lt. blue     |-  |conn. 3, pin 30 @ BCM *2    |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|*10                 |   |*10                         |
|  FCTRY ALARM ARM|PURPLE / lt. blue     |*5 |conn. 3, pin 14 @ BCM *2    |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|same wire           |   |                            |
|       TACHOMETER|*6                  |   |ignition coil pack          |
|      SPEED SENSE|blue/orange         |   |PCM *7                      |
|       BRAKE WIRE|WHITE/ tan           |+  |brake pedal switch          |
|     HORN TRIGGER|GREEN/ purple        |-  |steering column             |
|           WIPERS|brn/wht & brn/org   |+  |wiper motor                 |
|  LF WINDOW UP/DN|org/lt grn - org/wht|A  |drivers window switch       |
|  RF WINDOW UP/DN|org/tan - org/gry   |A  |drivers kick panel          |
|  LR WINDOW UP/DN|org/blu - org/lt blu|A  |drivers kick panel          |
|  RR WINDOW UP/DN|org/gry - org/grn   |A  |drivers kick panel          |
|        RADIO 12V|gray/red            |+  |radio                       |
|     RADIO GROUND|                    |   |                            |
|     RADIO SWITCH|blue/pink           |+  |radio                       |
| RADIO ILLUMINATE|ORANGE / tan          |+  |radio                       |
|       LF SPEAKER|green - grn/brn     |   |radio                       |
|       RF SPEAKER|gray - gray/brn     |   |radio                       |
|       LR SPEAKER|grn/blu - grn/org   |   |radio                       |
|       RR SPEAKER|gry/blu - gry/org   |   |radio                       |

Notes:
NOTE: Chrysler vehicles that use a gray ignition key have an immobilizer system that needs to be bypassed when remote starting. Use DEI part number 555C or 555U.  *1 This wire is rated at 10 amps only. If installing any system with high current outputs, go to battery for 12v.  *2 The BCM is in the drivers kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.  *3 Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.  *4 There are separate door triggers for each door, they are all in connector 3 at the BCM. The driver door trigger is purple in pin 6, the passenger door is PURPLE / white in pin 7, the left sliding door is PURPLE / gray in pin 8, and the right sliding door is purple / YELLOW in pin 5. Use all four and diode isolate each. See directfax document #1076 for wiring information.  *5 Arm is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor, this will also lock the doors. Disarm is negative trigger thru a 9.1K ohm resistor, if use double pulse this will also unlock the doors. MUST use relays.  *6 On the 2.4L use blue/green or blue/tan. On the 3.3L/3.8L use blue/green, blue/tan or blue/orange.   *7 The PCM is behind the driver side headlight. VSS is in the gray plug, pin 66.  *8 The parking lights are negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. The headlights are negative trigger thru a 790 ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch. See directfax document #1082 for wiring information.  *9 A diode must be placed inline on this wire to avoid problems with the dome lights and parking lights.  *10 Hatch release is PURPLE / tan in connector 2, pin 6 at the BCM. It is negative trigger thru a 1.69K ohm resistor. Left power sliding door is PURPLE / blue in connector 3, pin 1 at the BCM. It is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor. Right power sliding door is the same wire as the left and it is negative trigger thru a 2.7K ohm resistor. Must use relays.  *11 Accessory is not required for remote start.  *12 The second starter wire is negative trigger thru a 180 ohm resistor. MUST use relay. Refer to directfax document #1083 for wiring information.





Posted By: Jwolfer
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 3:12 PM

2002 Chrysler Voyager

Cranks a long time to start/sometimes start on second try but quickly on the second try.

not sure what the code is but it something about misfire on 1-3-5 cylinders





Posted By: PLAYER69
Date Posted: January 31, 2003 at 4:30 PM
Did you hook up this wire to a negative output through a relay and a 180 ohm resistor? |   SECOND STARTER|PURPLE / brown *12    |-  |ignition harness            |





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