2005 Saturn Relay Remote Start

   pk3-cant seem to bypass factory security system, remote start hornet 740t remote start and keyless entry, unit only works when key is near ignition> ive tried a directed part#556 doesnt seem to work> Im lost>when key is not near ignition everything works till the remote start tries to activate starter then message center says "starting disabled" then security light also after             Whats the trick? mrchevelle

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mrchevelle

which part # did you use a 556L or what and which car are you working on..

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Confidence is the key to any project!!

I had major return issues using the 556U in the Saturn Relay. Everytime I thought I had the ring right and sent the owner out the door I would get a phone call within a day or two saying 'starting disabled' when using the remote start, got it back readjusted the ring, same deal.

This van is what opened my eyes to the Bypasskit.com stuff. When I did that van DEI only listed the 556U, key in a box bypass as an option. DEI now lists that the 1100F will do it, but you need a software change. Do yourself a favor, pickup a GMBP for that van.

Twelvoltz wrote:

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I had major return issues using the 556U in the Saturn Relay. Everytime I thought I had the ring right and sent the owner out the door I would get a phone call within a day or two saying 'starting disabled' when using the remote start, got it back readjusted the ring, same deal.

This van is what opened my eyes to the Bypasskit.com stuff. When I did that van DEI only listed the 556U, key in a box bypass as an option. DEI now lists that the 1100F will do it, but you need a software change. Do yourself a favor, pickup a GMBP for that van.

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hi

    you stated pickup a GMBP for that van<2005 saturn Relay>, hopefully not a stupid question? what's a GMBP?

I sure appreciateit, it's stressing me out!

        thanks

        Randy

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mrchevelle

I am sorry, I should have explained in better detail.

The GMBP is a bypass module for GM vehicles, it fits many different vehicles. It is listed on bypasskit.com and can be sold under many different brand names but they are all the same piece. If you do a search for GMBP bypass on google you will find several online retailers, and I think you can purchase it right from bypasskit.com.

twelvvoltz,

thanks,

after I replied, I went to bypasskit.com, and found what your talking about. States, GMpass key 3and passlock 2 override interface.

do you think this will fix this problem with this 2005 saturn van?Sounds like the same problem I'm having as you had with a saturn relay also.

thanks

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mrchevelle

still can't figure out how this bypass 566u, by direct ! suppose to work, supposly, this bypass is the one a certain, business in the cities uses? If they are ,there doing something? different?

thank's again twelvevoltz!  and yes, you can buy direct from bypasskit.com, I'll go with the GMBP!

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mrchevelle

remote start installed, works perfect, except only runs for 3 minutes, unit comes pre programmed for 12 minute run time, Hornet# 570t, and automatically unlocks when remote start is activated, customer doesnt want that and wants it to run longer i have a GMBP installed to bypass PK3 seems to work<<<<<Any Ideas???Thanks

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mrchevelle

volt-sense or tach-sense?

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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).

Default is door locks activate on ignition On or ignition Off.
Cut the RED loop to disable ignition controlled door locks.

3 minute run time? Is it voltage sense or tach sense.]

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.

i did cut the red loop and its tach sense>>>Whats the plan???Thanks for help

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mrchevelle

You sure lock signals coming from 570? Disconnect temporarily and test to be sure.

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.

lock/umlock  signal not coming from 570

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mrchevelle

Do they lock/unlock when you turn the key to ignition then off?

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.

yes, on lock, off unlock

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mrchevelle

double checked no they dont lock till you start moving and dont unlock untill you remove the key

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mrchevelle

I think you're trying to say that the 570 runs then when it shuts down then it unlocks.
If that's the case and what you just posted, then the vehicle's BCM is unlocking the doors when it sees ignition off.
Either re-program the car so it doesn't do this or connect the RAP disable GREEN/ black wire of the 570 (also must cut GREEN/ black loop) to the lock wire in the car (ORANGE / black, driver's kick, negative trigger). Hopefully you aren't using it for FAD.

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.

it unlocks as soon as the remote start engages,  i do currently have the GREEN/ black wired to  FAD, re programming of the car? would that be done at a dealership? the locking/unlocking is easier to deal with than the 3 min run time do you have any suggestions for that???Thanks for all the help

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mrchevelle

It seems like FAA is unlocking your doors.

Re-program: There might be info in the owner's manual how to remove ignition controlled door locks via the DIC (driver info center) - if customer is OK with it.

3 minute runtime? Haven't the foggiest since it isn't even a programming option. Try disconnecting/reconnecting the two fuses then reprogram TX's and TACH.

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Prepare your future. It wasn't the lack of stones that killed the stone age.

2005 saturn relay   remote start hornet 570t, runs, works, but  only runs for 3 minutes, the unit is factory programmed for 12 minute run time>>>>LOST???? Not sure whats going on its got onstar not sure if that has any say in the security>>>>Any Ideas???

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mrchevelle