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2006 T 4Runner, Scytek Galaxy 5000RS-2W-1

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=89460
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 10:38 AM


Topic: 2006 T 4Runner, Scytek Galaxy 5000RS-2W-1

Posted By: coach1962
Subject: 2006 T 4Runner, Scytek Galaxy 5000RS-2W-1
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 5:54 AM

Hello,

I am trying to install Scytek Galaxy 5000RS-2W-1 on a 2006 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited. It has a factory keyless entry and factory alarm. Everything has hooked up okay with the exception of the door lock and door unlock. I have found what I believe are the two wires coming out of a 13 wire plug that the other side is going into the door. The two wires are blue/red (lock) and blue/black (unlock). These two pulse positive when you press the inside switch or turn the key in the door. Using relays to reverse the polarity (turn your neg pulse into a pos pulse), as soon as I press either lock or unlock, the fuse providing power to the relays blows. I had a installer check my wiring and he agrees they are wired correctly. We have checked wiring diagrams from a few websites. Some have suggested these colors, some have suggested blue (power lock) and green (power unlock). We could not find any blue or green wires on either side of the door plugs that react in any way to the inside switch or key in door. Do you have any suggestions as to wiring or colors or other locations to find better wires? Perhaps we are just missing something, but it's kicking our butts and my wife is ready to have all the wires put up and vehicle running.

Thank you,
Coach



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Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 6:46 AM
You have the wrong wires. You need to remove the relays and wire the alarm lock pulses directly to the green and blue wires in the drivers door harness. They are negative pulse locks. If you look at the large harness nearest the door jamb, part if it splits off and runs to two white plugs that are taped together, then exit thru the jamb towards the door. The green unlock wire will require two pulses(the first unlocks drivers, the second the rest). Test these wires using the key in the door. The wires you have are the motor leg wires...

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 6:53 PM
Mike, Thanks, you were dead on. I don't know how we missed them. I have tried several different searches and I am surprised that others haven't asked for this one (or I can't search). I would like to turn on the heated mirrors on aux 1 output(for our Texas ice)on the Scytek. An installer told me it was either on the back of the defog switch or a GREEN/ red wire on the ECU. I don't know how to get to the back of the defog switch and it doesn't look easy. I found three GREEN/ red wires in the connectors that are behind the glove box, but none seem to change states when the button is pushed and the light lights. So, here I am again, begging, is there a better desc or wire color or location or is this too silly to try to hook up. Any and all help would be appreciated.

Coach




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 7:14 PM
I have never tried this so i can't help. I can tell you how to get to the back of the heater controls if that helps. The pocket below them pops out. Open it and pull upwards to remove. There's a 10mm bolt behind it at the top, remove it. Now the entire heater controls will pop straight out...

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: throwback2332
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 7:36 PM
Thanks again mike, coach hows it going? Be able to drive to work saturday, Did you ever finish the immobilizer?

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Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 8:51 PM
Mike, Thanks again. I got the switch exposed, it was kind of a tense moment deciding how hard to pull once the bolt was removed. I am going to try to start figuring out the conn on the back.

Coach




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 24, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Not compleatly, if I twist both wires together, it starts. If I don't twist, it won't. So, it will work once the relay is connected....maybe.
It was the battery earlier, the system works for the most part. I could drive it Sat, as long as I am very careful where to put my feet. Ha Ha If this is who I think it is, thanks for all your help.

Coach




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Mike, Throwback,

Thanks for all the help. I wanted to publish what I figured out so the next person with a 4Runner will know. I found the rear window defogger - mirror heater wire on the connector that is mounted on the back of the heater control PC board. This was the board that Mike talked about by removing the 10mm bolt. It is a 14 pin connector, GREEN/ red wire, that is triggered by a pulse of ground or (-). One pulse - on, next pulse - off, etc. I used the Aux 2 (neg pulse) running straight to it, to trigger it. This will only work if the 4 Runner is running and the rear window is up. It works, but while driving it found that with the climate control system off, the air flow directional selector is still lit up. I don't think this is how it was before the install. I plan on the next break I have from work, using the output from the Scytek to control a relay that will be connected between the GREEN/ red wire and the WHITE/ black which is ground. This is what I found when I ohmed out the switch with the wires disconnected. I may have taken the easy way by just connecting the output.

I was also able to run the rear window down like the factory remote does. With the heater controls removed you can push the rear window switch out from the dash, unhook and reconnect the wires to test. The BLACK / YELLOW wire is 12V positive (+) and the rear window switch connects that to either yellow/red (to go up) or BLACK/ blue (to go down). I tapped into the BLACK/ blue using a relay to convert the neg output to a positive pulse. This worked, but it only goes down so you have to get in and run it up from the inside. I'm out of outputs on the Scytek, but Throwback had a good idea: Aux 1 - down window and Aux 2 - up window + rear defogger/mirrow heater. In the winter, the rear window won't go up if it's already up (so the defog will come on) and in the summer, the rear defog won't come on if the rear window is anything but all the way up. It's worth a try and the next chance I have, I'll try it and report back. That is if the modulators don't ban me for such a long response. LOL Sorry this is so long, but maybe it will help out the next guy.

Coach




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Does anybody know wfere I can find the hood pin wire on a 2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited? The guides say that the wire is pink/green. I can't find the hood pin (believe me, it's hidden well) and I can't find any pink/green wires that respond to the hood being popped open. I even tested it (to make sure there was one) by sitting in the drivers seat, arming the factory alarm, waiting 60 seconds, and popping the hood release (with ear protection on). Presto the alarm was activated. I know I could run my own pin and wire, but why drill, run wires, punch holes if you don't have to. Has anybody else hooked up to this factory wire?

Thanks,
Coach




Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 11:55 AM
Here it is: Hoodpin Pic

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Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Big Dog,

Thank You. An excellent photo.

Coach




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 4:44 PM
Coach, i have found that wire for window down only works when the car is running. I add a relay and turn on the second ignition during the remote window down, this allows it to always work.....

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 8:39 PM
Thanks Mike, I will probably try that when I do the next change to the install. I will report back when I get it all hooked up.

The only thing that I've seen so far that is kind of different is that if I start the 4Runner without unlocking the doors, the factory alarm goes off while it's starting. I'm not sure what I missed, but I did hookup the factory disarm wire to the keysense wire. If I unlock the doors before I tell it to start, it does fine, locking the doors as it starts. I'll keep playing with it.

Coach




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 30, 2007 at 9:52 PM
Ok, the factory disarm wire won't work on the keysense as it is only a pulse before start while it needs a ground the entire time the RS has the ignition on. You need to use the RS ground out while running(statis) wire for this. If you have this wire running a bypass already, you will need to diode isolate it so it won't turn the bypass on every time you put the key in the ignition...

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: January 31, 2007 at 5:10 AM
Thanks again Mike. I'm glad you mentioned the diode. That's one of those things that you might not realize until it got you. It looks like I've got a few things to wire and test on my next weekend. I appreciate all the help.

Coach




Posted By: coach1962
Date Posted: February 07, 2007 at 11:48 AM
An update,

I was able to hook up Aux 1 - down window and Aux 2 - up window + rear defogger/mirror heater. In the winter, the rear window won't go up if it's already up (so the defog will come on) and in the summer, the rear defog won't come on if the rear window is anything but all the way up. The BLACK / YELLOW wire is 12V positive (+) and the rear window switch connects that to either yellow/red (to go up) or BLACK/ blue (to go down). I tapped into the BLACK/ blue using a relay to convert the neg output to a positive pulse to go down and did the same to the yellow/red to go back up. I also put a diode in series to the defogger input on the 4Runner. At this point, I didn't hook up ign 2 to come on at the same time (to make this work without the remote start activated), but I may in the future.

Thanks for all the help and photos, they were a great help.

Coach




Posted By: joshua79109
Date Posted: February 23, 2007 at 9:02 AM

Mike,             thanks for the posts... they have helped me out.  I have installed an aps786 on a 2007 4runner.  I am using channel 4 to roll the window down like the factory remote.  I was able to get the window to roll down after the vehicle was remote started, but not with the vehicle off ( like the factory remote ).  I see in your post you used a relay to turn on the second ignition to correct this.  Would you explain that a little more?  Is it a seperate relay from the relay to change polarity for the window down pulse?  What feed wire from the alarm did you use to activate the relay off of the channel you used to roll the window down - (does the ignition wire only have to be on during the roll down)?





Posted By: joshua79109
Date Posted: March 07, 2007 at 8:19 AM
Mike ,     I found another post of yours with the information I needed.  Thanks





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