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457gw, 2000 pontiac grand am

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Topic: 457gw, 2000 pontiac grand am

Posted By: maple75
Subject: 457gw, 2000 pontiac grand am
Date Posted: February 04, 2007 at 5:42 PM

I have a 2000 pontiac grand am gt. i recieved a valet 561r remote start and 457gw interface for xmas. the problem i'm having is there is no install paper or diagram with the 457gw. i have also heard that the 457gw will not work the power locks. can anyone help me?



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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 04, 2007 at 9:27 PM
DEI lists this info for your 00 Grand Am.


DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - PONTIAC / GRAND AM / 2000 / Remote Start

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12volts      red       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Starter      yellow       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Second Starter                 
Ignition      pink       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Second Ignition      dk. green       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Third Ignition                 
Accessory      orange       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Second Accessory      brown       +       ignition harness
Notes: Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness.
Keysense                 
Power Lock      white       -       black plug in dkp
Notes: Lock requires a negative trigger, and unlock requires a negative trigger through a 1,500 ohm resistor. Must use relays. Must close doors to lock with a single pulse.

Power Unlock      same wire            
Lock Motor      gray             drivers kick panel
Unlock Motor      tan             drivers kick panel
Parking Lights+      brown             passenger kick or column
Parking Lights-                 
Hazards                 
Turn Signal(L)                 
Turn Signal(R)                 
Reverse Light                 
Door Trigger            -      
Notes: The lt. GREEN/ black is located in the drivers kick and catches only the drivers door. The lt. blue is located in the harness coming from the drivers running board going under the drivers seat and it catches all other doors. Use both door trigger wires and diode isolate each. On the 2 door the lt.blue is in the passenger kick.
Dome Supervision      white       -       dash light or column
Trunk/Hatch Pin      ORANGE / black       -       trunk light
Hood Pin                 
Trunk/Hatch Release      BLACK/ white       -       trunk release switch
Power Sliding Door                 
Factory Alarm Arm                 
Factory Alarm Disarm                 
Disarm No Unlock                 
Tachometer      white or PURPLE / wht             ignition coil or ECM
Notes: The ECM is located under the left side of the dash to the left of the column.
Wait to start                 
Brake Wire      lt. blue       +       at the switch
Parking Brake                 
Horn Trigger      black       -       steering column
Memory Seat 1                 
Memory Seat 2                 
Memory Seat 3                 
Interface Module:      Category:
Immobilizer Bypass      Required:
Yes      Type:
Passlock II
Part #: 1100F
Alternate Part1 #: 1100X
Alternate Part2 #: 556LW
Alternate Part3 #: 555LW
Alternate Part4 #: DesignTech 20402
Alternate Part5 #: DesignTech 29402
Notes: When using the 1100F or 1100X, a software change to 1100GM is needed.
Interface Module:      Category:
Door Lock Interface      Required:
Yes      Type:
Multiplex
Part #: 456LW
Notes:
Interface Module:      Category:
Combo Interface      Required:
Yes      Type:
Data Bus
Part #: 1700G
Alternate Part1 #: 457GW
Notes: Can use the 1700G or 457GW to bypass the Passlock II, but it will not control the door locks on this model year.
Smart Starter Kill Relays: Not Available


warning      
This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty. It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.
Directed Electronics assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.


As you can see the 457 will work for bypassing the passlock, but will not do the door locks on your vehicle. You can grab the install manual here.



Posted By: maple75
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 8:15 AM
what do i need to work the door locks



Posted By: lsondubz
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 8:41 AM

Either have to use relays and resistors or a resistance learning lock module if you want




Posted By: maple75
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 10:12 AM

any particular brand




Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 12:06 PM
For door locks you can pick up a DEI 451M it comes with the required resistors and plugs right in to the door lock port on your 561R. You can find these on the web for less than $10.



Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 1:58 PM
or a 456L if you dont want to mess around with relays and resistors....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979



Posted By: maple75
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 8:26 PM
do i still need the 457gw with those



Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 8:40 PM
Yes, you need it to bypass the PK3 for it to remote start. You will only connect 4 wires on the 457G, black, red, blue and purple(no others!)

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services



Posted By: maple75
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 9:22 PM

where does the blue wire hook up to?




Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 05, 2007 at 9:33 PM
The blue from the 457 hooks to the blue status output of the 561R to let the bypass know the remote start is being activated.

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Posted By: customak47
Date Posted: February 07, 2007 at 12:33 PM
the 457gw will do the anti theft bypass and the doorlocks if the vehicle has factory keyless entry ( or so the install manual says) but if you hook it up and the remote start works and the keyless doesn't, you will have to use resistors to the white wire in the kick, the 456 will NOT work if the 457 doesn't. I usually use the 500 ohm resistor and two diodes and no relays on this car and have had no problems, but then I use Ultrastart

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Posted By: mlaurenza
Date Posted: February 07, 2007 at 2:06 PM
The blue wire of the bypass gets connected to the ground out when remote started.


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